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what is up everyone ryan sprague here

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from somewhere in the skies and welcome

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to a very very special halloween season

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youtube live stream and facebook i guess

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um let's talk about that if you're

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watching this on facebook right now why

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are you doing that go over to youtube

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watch it on the ryan sprague youtube

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channel that way i will see all of your

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comments as they come in if you do watch

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on facebook there's a very good chance i

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will not see a lot of your comments

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unless you give stream yard permission

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there's a link below on the facebook

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post um in in order to do that so you

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can either do that or just go watch this

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on youtube it's a lot better over there

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anyways um this is gonna be a lot of fun

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tonight for anyone who knows i am a huge

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fan

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of alien abduction movies and obviously

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alien abductions in general that's why

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you're here uh so we're gonna be talking

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about uh four alien abduction themed

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found footage films tonight which is

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gonna be really fun and i have some

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really special guests for you guys um

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two of my co-hosts for tonight and also

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some special guest appearances as well

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from people from the films we're going

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to be reviewing but before we do all

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that let's talk a little shop here guys

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um the super chat is open

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if you want to help out somewhere in the

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skies please um you can do so with the

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super chat button that way we will

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highlight your comments highlight your

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uh your questions you might have for me

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or my guest co-hosts for tonight um it's

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a great way to help out the show and uh

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get your comments and questions asked

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right here live on youtube or facebook

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and um other than that um let's see oh i

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wanted to mention i just got sent this

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book by a listener of the show uh no

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more nomar slavik who's actually been a

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guest on the show uh we only come out at

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night this is a really cool book full

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of um scary stories ghosts supernatural

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paranormal aliens as well and nomar has

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just done an incredible job of creating

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these terrifying worlds in the book so

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please this halloween season help out an

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independent author and just have a good

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time have a good time spook spook your

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friends your significant others whatever

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you want with we only come out at night

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by no slavik so check that out on amazon

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what else do i have here guys oh we have

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an upcoming halloween series episode

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where we're going to be talking to two

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modern day witches who practice

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witchcraft in today's world um so that's

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gonna be a lot of fun

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keep a lookout for that very soon um

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amongst all the main feed episodes as

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and uh other than that

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like subscribe share the show i'd really

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appreciate that but without further ado

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i'm going to introduce our two co-hosts

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for tonight as we go through these

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movies whether they like it or not um

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first on the docket is one of my closest

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friends and colleagues andrew sanford

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andrew is a writer performer director

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operating out of new york city

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uh he was twice featured for the abc

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discover showcase and co-created a

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graphic novel called gwendolyn in 2013

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with artist extraordinaire joe cabot uh

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andrew was selected for the for the abc

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recently he has been working with the

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new york city theater company random

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he did one one of the star wars so we'll

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have to ask him about that and one of

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the star wars i sound like

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an old person when i say that go see a

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star wars um and he has also been a

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staff contributor for pajiba.com

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and he just came out with an article

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over there recently about chucky so go

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check that out and you can follow him on

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twitter at sanford minus sun though the

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handle is no longer accurate because he

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is the dad of two of the cutest twins i

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have ever seen um not the creepiest the

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cutest and that is andrew sanford so i'm

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gonna bring him in right now andrew hi

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everybody

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i am good i'm good i hope i did you some

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justice you did wonderful it i will say

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it is pajama

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and all that really matters is how you

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spell it because that's what you're

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really going to be doing but um

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pajiba is how it is

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i feel like i would be remember it

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doesn't matter there are there's also a

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lot of other wonderful writers over

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there too that you should check out i

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did i should have said that um people

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who are people who are much more

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qualified to review movies than i am um

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the pros

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i don't want to dash anybody's hopes

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before we get started oh not at all yeah

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i've seen easily 50 movies

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no big deal it's whatever

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it's right there um anthony thank you so

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much for this did you just call me

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anthony

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i would hope i knew your name by now oh

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man anthony i love you i love your last

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name that's a dope last name man

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mikulski mikulski yeah a huge supporter

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of the show

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thanks for being here let's give a shout

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out quick before we bring in our other

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amazing co-host matthew riot is here

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alien girl thank you for being here

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i'm gonna try to shout you guys out as

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much as i can um we're gonna be really

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busy tonight um reviewing these movies

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as well and showing you some special

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clips but let's move to our second

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co-host of the night and that is

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nicholas westermeyer nicholas is an

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actor director and teacher based in new

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york city he received his ba in theater

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from clark college and his mfa

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smart smart man mfa in acting from

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brooklyn college he currently teaches

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theater and speech at uh cooney cuny he

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is a founding member of voyage theater

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company and third kind productions

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little company i know a little something

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about he is also the co-executive

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producer and co-star of reverie lane i

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put that in there nick so he's gonna

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love that so without further ado let's

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bring him in

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nicholas westermeyer what's up buddy

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welcome i think this may be the first

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time we have done this in a really i

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think the last movie the three of us

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might have looked at was like

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god last jedi maybe

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did we i don't think i talked about that

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for your show no maybe not was that you

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chris chris okay the last the last time

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we did something was whatever the last

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october was oh my god that's the last

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yeah yeah yeah i don't even i don't even

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great movies i know that we're fantastic

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oh was that the one where we did um it

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follows uh yes and two other ones

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krampus yeah

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it was a really like hodgepodge episode

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but i kind of like that any time before

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we get too into the weeds um i used to

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host a podcast it's pretty much like

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done at this point it kind of the

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pandemic kind of it was a pandemic

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casualty but that's that's okay it was a

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lot of fun um we did i did that for a

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few years and even though it was like a

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pop culture and politics discussion

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podcast every october because i love

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horror movies so much we'd throw out the

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entire purpose of the podcast

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and just talk about horror movies and i

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would bring on wonderful people that i

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love to talk to um and i you two were um

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one of the few

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multiple guests um i tried to switch it

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ryan's my favorite hard ufo podcaster

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too mainly because oh jealous anthony

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jealous of my hair anthony we're good

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friends anthony i'm trying to slip these

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comments in don't feel like you have to

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respond

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look it's hard i notice that they're

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there now and i can't i

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these are know my like hardcore um

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friends out there who are always here to

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support so i love you guys um but yeah

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tell us a little bit more about

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shocktober that's what we're doing

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tonight i would throw out the purpose of

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the podcast we just talk about horror

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movies and um i think the first time you

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guys did an episode two we talked about

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like six of them but what happened was

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yeah yeah yeah which was a lot of fun

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but that was anyway

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um so and i would call it shocktober

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because that's what i i'm not the first

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or the last person to call october shock

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to october because the scary movies but

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yeah so i love you guys take credit for

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it yeah yes i will i take soul credit

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for it either it's october tm

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um it's so much fun i miss it it is a

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lot of fun i do i do miss that aspect of

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things but it was um just

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things move on i got busy with other

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stuff the pandemic happened we couldn't

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record in the same room which i always i

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usually prefer i like this this app is

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great oh it's great but it is hilarious

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that all three of us live in the new

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york city kind of metro area yeah yeah

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we're in three different places

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absolutely i've done what we're gonna do

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on 2021. via zoom

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over the pandemic than i have ever

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very true i don't know where people are

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anymore

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i know

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person i'm like i gotta like touch their

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face and make sure it's real and that's

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what's happening here and then that's

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when i get arrested um that's another

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story um well let's talk since i have

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you both here you both both of you guys

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come from the theater world um that's

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originally how i met both of you um and

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friends nick and i

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went through a lot of trials and

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tribulations both as struggling artists

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in new york and then as creative

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partners and um it's been a crazy

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journey ever since and same with andrew

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we've written a play together at this

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um nick and i have worked on a movie

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together it's just been an incredible

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ride but um

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what i wanna know from you guys since i

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have you here um you're both performers

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um your experiences in the world of

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horror which is a lot of what we're

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nick i think i'd i'd love to start with

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you man before we dive into the movies

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uh what is your experience as a

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performer with horror i know you've done

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a couple horror films um would you mind

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giving us a little little overview of

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your experiences with that so i mean i'm

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kind of like andrew like i love horror

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movies and um definitely and usually

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ryan definitely like a large swath of

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them i like watching them it's kind of

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what i do in october um in terms of

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doing horror movies i've done

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a couple shorts i've done two feature

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films that are more like slasher genres

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so one of the things with my experience

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is that there's definitely a formula

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that goes with it but um

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it's probably the most fun i've had

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working on a set um the stuff people

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come up with creatively to

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do effects on lower budget so with a lot

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of times the hormones you'll see that

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younger filmmakers or experienced

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filmmakers will do them and do them more

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low-fi low-budget

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because they can be really effective

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without a lot of

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um effects um and that was cool so

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yeah i mean they've done two feature

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films uh which is great it's probably

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the most fun i've had shooting a movie

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they've always been fun the cast are

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always great

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and someone stick glass in someone's eye

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and make it cool i don't know what uh

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what was the name do you mind uh

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frat house massacre uh violence of the

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mind the gacy project

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um

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oh god there's

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a couple other ones those are the three

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big ones that come to my mind though now

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was this the original frat house

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massacre or this wasn't like part

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12 no no it's an og it's a okay

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we should practice that and then andrew

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and i should talk about it because there

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we go

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look no it won't even be that i'll

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interview you about it oh really get

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into that i wanna one of the things like

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not to spoil anything but i really

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wanted to for some of the movies that we

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watched i really

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wanted to pick some of the creators

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brains afterwards all of them actually

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for different reasons um yeah so a

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little tease there

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absolutely and i did pick the brains of

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some of the uh directors and actually so

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excited tonight's film so i will be

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hearing from them um but yeah they're

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very accessible so um definitely andrew

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i'll i'll have them reach out to you man

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and guys like if you want to give your

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comments on the films we're reviewing

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tonight put them in the chat um put them

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in the super chat if you want we'll

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definitely um we want to know what you

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guys think of these movies as well the

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this is just the three of us just

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sitting back drinking and having a good

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time um thank you so much i'm drinking

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caffeinated bubbly i'm not gonna lie

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y'all it's pretty it's pretty damn good

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what do you got nick diet coke

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yeah am i the only god i'm the on the

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your north carolina jug um i love it i

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am drinking

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pumpkin now

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he is the renaissance man incarnate john

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l from australia with the super chat

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thank you so much john thanks for being

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with us man what time is it there

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um

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what did anthony say ryan look at

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andrew's shirt oh plaid yeah i am

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noticing

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anthony no it's not even just that bro

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anthony i was waiting i was literally

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about to say i'm just gonna say it

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nobody's acknowledged my mick foley

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or cactus jack well here's the thing

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cactus jack didn't always wear the

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flannel on top of the shirt he did

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sometimes but that was usually i feel

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like when mick foley wrestled as himself

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um this is the look he would kind of

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rock i love me some mick foley um and it

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was either this or the ghostbusters

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costume but that thing's hard to pee in

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will happen at some point tonight so

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exactly this is my nod

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i love it i love it i wish i thank you

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he's great man he's so cool um i love

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having him here he's here every every

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time i do this thank you amazing

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i tried to spookify my studio i've got

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this fluorescent ghost i got um

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from target very nice um let's see what

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else we got we got the jackalope in

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there yeah i thought it'd be appropriate

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jackalope jackalope it was classic what

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is a jack oh gosh i gotcha

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yeah

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our one and only child so um i know i

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carried that into your apartment for you

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you did

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nick has oh my god i'm not we won't even

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get into that why did it leave why

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didn't there have to be a second time

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yeah why did that be a second time ryan

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um

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i like to black out those two years of

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my life to be completely honest it's not

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uh i've honestly forgotten about this

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point

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john says it's 11 15 a.m oh good well no

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no

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that sounds like an excuse to me brother

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what do you have to do today come on

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listen to us

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be honest with me we're all friends here

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god it's just me and you

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oh all right go ahead andrew's having

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his own episode with you what like look

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i'm trying no i'm not trying to

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encourage anybody to do anything that

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they don't want to do you can take

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andrew away from the podcast but he'll

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always come back it's his home always

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yes i love the batman animated series

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hello we're getting a new animated

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series uh from what i hear yes from

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bruce

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oh yeah it's gonna be a tv show a

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cartoon from bruce kim very excited oh

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okay awesome first time somebody else i

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think one of the people working on

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harley quinn which is an amazing show

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yeah funny but it was like really

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incredible stuff um

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but uh yeah new cartoon from british tim

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which is very very very exciting and

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another new batman man it is the year

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of like reboots like i want to talk to

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you guys about that too we've got

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chucky the tv series we've got

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hollywood tomorrow

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no chucky and i actually

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like controversial thought maybe not hot

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take maybe whatever

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child play is one of the most consistent

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franchises in any horror

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even though they do like it's always

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kind of like campy i think that first

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movie is a little bit scarier than

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people give it credit for which as you

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said earlier i wrote about how it

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affected me watching it now as a new

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father um for java.com i can uh ryan can

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you drop that link in the in the

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comments i guess or can i do that

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um look check it out you might enjoy it

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um it's good a very personal read thank

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you nick um

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but i uh

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one of the great things about child's

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play is don mancini who is chucky's

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creator and in the first movie i think

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he gets like a story by credit and a

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co-writer credit and then he slowly like

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bumps up until like he's soul writer and

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then seed of chucky which is like if you

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know it's a comedy going in is better

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than i think people give it credit for

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it's not it's it misses a lot but it

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hits as well um because it's just funny

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and silly

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he wrote and directed that one and then

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wrote and directed curse of chucky and

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which was straight to blu-ray and

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exceeded all expectations and was kind

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of a return to a traditional horror for

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the franchise um and then he went and

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worked on hannibal a little bit the tv

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show i think that timeline works up

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right yeah yeah yeah and then took what

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he learned from that and did cult of

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chucky which you can see the influence

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visually and then came up with the idea

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for the show

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but the people who own the rights to

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child's play wanted to do a reboot

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which then halted the plans for the show

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because they were like this reboot might

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say like this dude is actively working

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on this franchise it's the only

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franchise i can think of where it's had

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a singular creative mind in charge

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behind its entirety it's been 30 plus

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years right it's just been him

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so

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it's got that going for it and the

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honestly the first episode of the tv

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show because thankfully

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i know there are some people that liked

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it i honestly just did not see it

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because i didn't think it was fair that

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that franchise was taken away from him

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like that

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um so i didn't see the reboot

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i just know it did not do well enough to

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warrant the sequels so

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the production for the tv show went back

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on and it's another just advancement for

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the franchise it's really good stuff i

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think that first episode is like free on

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youtube now too oh okay i highly

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recommend it

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out

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and um happily plug somebody else's work

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because i enjoyed it that much yeah and

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i'm sorry i failed miserably with

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dropping the link dude can you say um

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spell it out for us yeah paj i i can

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pull it up hold on just a sec i got a

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computer in front of me

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let me get right oh here it is i got it

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i'm gonna put a link right here guys to

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directly to andrew's um

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article so please go read that thanks

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bud after this of course after this yeah

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yeah yeah later don't worry halloween

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kills comes out tomorrow which is very

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exciting about that me too me too but

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let's let's get to it the reason

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we're here the reason people are

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listening to us go on and on is these

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fun footage films now um a lot of our

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viewers and listeners have probably seen

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a lot of these um but i want to know

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from you guys is this your first time

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seeing

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all of these films um

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all except for the slumber party uh

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abduction which okay yes which i do

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think it's important to point out for

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context of that movie that it is because

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i've seen vhs2

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which was uh that short i i know you

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spoke with the director earlier today um

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i'm not sure if he did it independently

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first and then it just got rolled into

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that movie or it was just made for that

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movie

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segment is a smaller segment amongst

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other segments and i do think that's

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important to bring up even well before

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we get into talking about that movie

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because um

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context is everything for a lot of these

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things um yeah that especially for its

547
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,919
pace it's flow like it's when you put it

548
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,400
in the context of what it needed to be

549
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,960
there are things that you can excuse

550
00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:26,480
because exactly

551
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,720
yes you know it's part of the thing it's

552
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,320
part of what it is you're right i think

553
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:32,880
you know you zoom in on just this

554
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,840
slumber party alien abduction yeah not

555
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,400
vhs as a whole which yeah um jason

556
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:40,880
eisner the creator he did create this

557
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,679
specifically for vhs um i i don't know

558
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:46,080
if that made it into i i had to dude it

559
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,400
was awesome i asked i asked him to do

560
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:50,480
like a five minute video and we went for

561
00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:52,159
like half an hour so i had to

562
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,760
drastically cut down what you guys are

563
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,520
going to see tonight but i'm going to

564
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,799
put the extended version of the

565
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,679
interview up on youtube as well um but

566
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:01,679
yeah he you know the challenge was to

567
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:03,120
create a like

568
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,320
you know very short film in the vhs

569
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,400
found footage sort of feel and that's

570
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,320
what he came up with and

571
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:12,000
as we'll get to i think it was pretty

572
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:13,280
effective

573
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,919
but let's start chronologically so

574
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:17,280
tonight we're going to be talking about

575
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:20,159
the mcpherson tape from 1989 slumber

576
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:23,440
party alien abduction 13 alien abduction

577
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,559
14 and the fourth kind 2009 we're gonna

578
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,000
end with fourth kind because i know

579
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:29,679
that's the one we're gonna talk about

580
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,799
probably the most um pretty divisive and

581
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,880
um i know a lot of people in the chat

582
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,120
probably have some um

583
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:39,360
some ideas about that as well but let's

584
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,039
start with um

585
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,279
literally i can say

586
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,279
um almost with certainty there might be

587
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:47,760
some debate on this the first found

588
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,799
footage film that really came out um

589
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:53,360
worldwide and that is the mcpherson tape

590
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:56,720
1989 10 years before the blair witch

591
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,880
project we got the mcpherson tape

592
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,720
there's a really interesting story

593
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,799
behind how this came to be we will hear

594
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,960
from the director about that after our

595
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,039
review but um

596
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:09,120
let's kind of jump in here's the quick

597
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:11,520
synopsis of mcpherson tape uh on a

598
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,559
typical fall evening in 1983 young man

599
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,320
was videotaping his niece's fifth

600
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,480
birthday party as the night strange

601
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,720
occurrences took place he kept his video

602
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:23,279
camera running recording the entire

603
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:25,919
event and that event would be

604
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,279
an invasion an alien abduction um so

605
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,440
before we kind of get into like what the

606
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:33,360
film is about um written and directed by

607
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:36,960
dean aliotto starring tommy gia faccini

608
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:41,440
patrick kelly and shirley mccalla um

609
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,240
and uh dean actually the creator plays

610
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,400
the 16 year old who has the camera so

611
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:48,159
there you go the director is literally

612
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,360
the one behind the seat of the camera

613
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:51,279
was he 16 at the time

614
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,559
no no okay okay okay he was not but um

615
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,960
so yeah i guess that's kind of um

616
00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:59,520
the premise we we get this bound footage

617
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,159
film a guy is recording his family like

618
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,320
most families do and mind you again this

619
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,760
was filmed in 1989 so i mean

620
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:09,360
that's just crazy to me to think that

621
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,200
that's the earliest fun footage film we

622
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,720
have and um

623
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,480
you know you can feel it you can

624
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:16,000
definitely feel this is from the late

625
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,919
80s when you never start watching it but

626
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,760
um yeah what did you guys think initial

627
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,600
thoughts when you started watching this

628
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,000
for the first time

629
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:27,520
i i was immediately engaged by it yeah

630
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,240
100 like i because it's

631
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,600
there is an authenticity to how the

632
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,360
movie is set up and

633
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,520
how it looks and it really like it

634
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:39,200
doesn't feel

635
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,559
i mean obviously it was filmed in the

636
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:42,720
late 80s so it looks like it was filmed

637
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,840
in the late 80s but it also

638
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,000
has this

639
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:51,520
tone to it and i think the um i

640
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,679
without tanging too much

641
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,960
i think

642
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,120
all four of these movies did at least

643
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,200
one thing that was like really really

644
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,360
strong um some of them did a few things

645
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,799
that are really strong but i think that

646
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,360
the mcpherson tape one of the many

647
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,200
strong things that i think it does is

648
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,360
the improv amongst the family um and

649
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,440
that's that's not easy and i do think in

650
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:12,960
one of these other movies you see that

651
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,000
that's not that improv is not easy um to

652
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:18,000
make it believable that these people are

653
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,039
just kind of like it felt like i was

654
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,520
looking at a family and my first thought

655
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:24,880
and maybe you know the answer to this

656
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:28,640
ryan um is what was the distribution for

657
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,520
this

658
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,039
because i know you said it didn't get

659
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,200
like a proper release until just a few

660
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,039
years ago not even correct it's not even

661
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,600
a real no that's crazy exactly i know i

662
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:39,600
was looking for like rotten tomatoes

663
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,080
nothing um well yeah that's and i don't

664
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,000
think the clip i have really goes into

665
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,159
that too much but this film was never

666
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,279
distributed so crazy story um dean eliot

667
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:51,200
the filmmaker full disclosure is a

668
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,640
friend of mine um i was in a uh recent

669
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,960
horror film of his which i'll tell you

670
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,120
guys about a funny story with that after

671
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,200
this um

672
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,760
it he filmed it and they had a

673
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,240
distributor like they had it all set up

674
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:08,559
so he gave them the final cut he gave

675
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,400
them all the artwork like it was ready

676
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:11,919
to go and

677
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,039
not [\h__\h] you the distribution

678
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,600
building burned to the ground and

679
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:20,080
everything was lost the master copy of

680
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,120
the film

681
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,159
um all of his artwork everything

682
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:26,240
destroyed like you would think that it

683
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,520
was like

684
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,120
when he first told me that i'm like come

685
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:31,360
on man like that's such a like

686
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,470
you know

687
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,320
[\h__\h] happens moving on

688
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,240
little did he know that

689
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,480
somehow some way

690
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,360
there were copies made of the film um

691
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,679
that made it out onto like the black

692
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:02,080
market and the early days of the

693
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,520
internet and um it became this cult

694
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,600
thing specifically within the ufo

695
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:10,880
community this thing for years i'm not

696
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,840
kidding you guys um was touted as real

697
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,480
us in the ufo community um thought this

698
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,200
was an actual home video taken of an

699
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,200
alien abduction that's how convincing it

700
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,679
was um which we'll get to in terms of

701
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,600
how convincing you guys think this was

702
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,640
but um

703
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,120
that was crazy and then when dean the

704
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,360
filmmaker found out about this he was

705
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,080
like oh my god i had no idea so my film

706
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:36,559
still is alive and not only that people

707
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,600
think it's real like i did my job um but

708
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,120
he wanted to

709
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,600
get credit for it you know like no i

710
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,000
made this this wasn't like this isn't a

711
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:47,760
real alien abduction guys come on come

712
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,559
on so he ended up going on like tv and

713
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,080
saying um

714
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,080
i made this film i can prove to you i

715
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,080
made this but the ufo community was not

716
00:29:01,990 --> 00:28:58,960
having it they were so convinced and i

717
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,000
think wanted to believe this was real it

718
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:04,720
was the evidence we always wanted um a

719
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,520
lieutenant colonel in the army actually

720
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,440
was convinced like it's that this was

721
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:11,679
real it's crazy crazy like to the point

722
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,480
where

723
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:15,200
eventually um it got picked up

724
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,080
by

725
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,320
dick clark productions and remade but

726
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:21,120
well dean will explain that to us but um

727
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,399
yeah that's the story behind the

728
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,720
distribution it never did but somehow it

729
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,679
still

730
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:28,080
came up from the ashes like a phoenix

731
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,120
and that's what i thought because it

732
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:32,399
felt like it's and it's hard to explain

733
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,080
uh this to people maybe uh that aren't

734
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:38,080
of a certain age but i think we're all

735
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,840
of it like tape swapping was a thing

736
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,600
yeah you swapped tapes with people

737
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,600
absolutely you had these big clunky

738
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,600
tapes and you traded it for other big

739
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,520
clunky tapes

740
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:51,200
yeah that's what you did i did that with

741
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,480
bootlegs

742
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,559
broadway shows back in the day it's like

743
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,720
oh i can't go to new york and see

744
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:58,960
whatever so legit phantom of the opera

745
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,600
like let me get it on the black market

746
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,919
uh can i can i swear on the show

747
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,840
absolutely okay cool uh i'm gonna say

748
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:06,960
one last thing and then i'm gonna shut

749
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,200
the [\h__\h] up so nick can talk um

750
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,120
but uh just real quick

751
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:13,200
did it have did the version that was out

752
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,679
there have credits

753
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:18,480
yeah yes and people still thought it was

754
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,039
real but what they did is whoever leaked

755
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,679
him cut the credits off okay okay same

756
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,919
with like a title card at the beginning

757
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,559
like whoever put this out like did it

758
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,559
for a reason like thank god i honestly

759
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:32,399
think it somehow made it into the hands

760
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,200
of like some ufo person and they were

761
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,640
like um

762
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,080
i gotta get this out there like people

763
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,080
are gonna think it's real like thus

764
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,360
proving this is all real and my life's

765
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,640
work is

766
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,440
for a reason you know um so yeah the

767
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,880
with the version that got out to the

768
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,720
public like all those things were cut

769
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:53,120
off so i get it like if i had seen this

770
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:56,799
back in like 92 93 which i did not i saw

771
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,000
the upn remake version much later on

772
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,080
which we'll get to um which was still

773
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:04,399
terrifying to me as well but um this

774
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,880
original version in 89 like i can't

775
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:08,559
imagine what it must have been like

776
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,279
seeing that like on you know

777
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,519
not on television just getting a copy of

778
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,519
it and throwing that in the vcr and

779
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,440
watching it again like fun footage

780
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:19,120
wasn't a thing so we didn't have all

781
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,760
these ideas of like oh they're they

782
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,000
faked this they faked this like we

783
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,559
weren't there yet i think as an audience

784
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,080
to be like

785
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,320
yeah for sure this is fake um at least

786
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,799
that's my opinion i i don't know

787
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:34,480
but nick what do you think yeah no i

788
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,000
mean it's this is all just dumped off

789
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,760
the stuff you guys said so i mean

790
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,960
i didn't do a lot of research about any

791
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,880
of the films before we started watching

792
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:42,240
them because i kind of came in later so

793
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:43,919
i was just trying to get like

794
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,240
the movies watched and so this is the

795
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,640
second one i watched of the group and

796
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,880
like the i basically took three notes

797
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,480
and then just watched so i said like oh

798
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:54,880
early foul footage the 80s exclamation

799
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,519
point um because i was so like impressed

800
00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,880
i was like holy [\h__\h] i didn't know this

801
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,279
existed uh and then i was like feels

802
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:03,360
very home movie and and finally i just

803
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,960
wrote be impressed um so for me like one

804
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,640
of the things i think about when you're

805
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:11,039
working on like a found footage film uh

806
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,640
i'm sure it's the same as like a film

807
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,000
director which i'm sure andrew could

808
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,919
talk about or as an actor is how do you

809
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,440
make something feel

810
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:19,519
um as

811
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,240
as realistic as possible to make it feel

812
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,440
like this is actually something that's

813
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,919
being shot the actors aren't acting in

814
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:27,279
it to make it feel

815
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:28,480
genuine

816
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,600
and that was something i thought that

817
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,880
actually worked really well with the

818
00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:31,679
older

819
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,159
like 80s style the home movies the

820
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:36,640
the lo-fi of it um

821
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,960
worked really well and then to add to

822
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,799
that andrew you mentioned this the

823
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,880
interaction between the family that was

824
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:44,320
the thing i was the most impressed with

825
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:48,159
i was like this sounds it sounds to me

826
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:51,039
very real like i bought i bought into it

827
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:53,519
it felt like i was watching like an old

828
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,720
family recording of my family um and so

829
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,799
because of that i was on that i was

830
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,320
already engaged i was like this is doing

831
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,480
a really good job because as a general

832
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,880
rule i'm not a huge fan of found footage

833
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,399
films because

834
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:08,399
you on to me i already go this is not

835
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,080
this isn't real like it you can you can

836
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,240
hear it you can you can feel the way

837
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,919
that it's being

838
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:15,519
the way that the the damn dynamic

839
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,480
between people that's why i thought

840
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,240
blair rich was so good because blair

841
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:20,799
witch had that feeling of like well [\h__\h]

842
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:22,240
they're in the woods this is really

843
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,360
happening

844
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,960
and i thought this movie

845
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:27,519
just [\h__\h] nailed that i mean just was

846
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,799
so

847
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:31,200
well done in its simplicity

848
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,640
um

849
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,720
between everybody in it and i just can't

850
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,320
like i couldn't let go of that i was

851
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:39,600
like it was so it felt so genuine and

852
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:40,559
that even

853
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:42,399
at one point because i didn't know i was

854
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:43,120
like

855
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,760
right but but you had to look and that

856
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:53,600
happened with blair witch i remember too

857
00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:55,279
yeah and i bought it from [\h__\h] i

858
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,919
bought it from from amazon i was like oh

859
00:34:03,110 --> 00:33:59,840
yeah then i still was like wait is this

860
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:03,120
not is this right fake uh even though

861
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,880
there's like a title card right it's

862
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,960
crazy that's how bought in i was i was

863
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,639
like yeah that's what you know i was

864
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:10,320
like nice

865
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,399
kudos kudos for doing something well

866
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:14,960
and you know i i i guess i can speak for

867
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:17,679
dean because um you know i i did like a

868
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,359
three hour interview with him about this

869
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,599
entire journey with both versions of the

870
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:24,159
film um i think they rehearsed for like

871
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,119
a week

872
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,040
like these people were cast they were

873
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:29,040
all local actors out in like the bay

874
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,879
area and um

875
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,879
you know brought them in a room told

876
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:34,560
them kind of the concept and what they

877
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,200
were going for and again like now you

878
00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,839
can be a trained found footage actor

879
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:41,679
like there's classes to take on just how

880
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,240
to be in fun footage films um from what

881
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,800
i've been told but back then like

882
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,639
there that's not

883
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,800
nobody knew what that was so i can't

884
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:53,040
imagine like showing up on set and kind

885
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,000
of like just experimenting and this is

886
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,240
what we got and i think it was it was

887
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,320
really effective and we even even talked

888
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,800
about like the actual plot which is you

889
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,240
know aliens show up and um and this is

890
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,560
inspired i should say andrew you and i

891
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:10,240
talked about this briefly um the

892
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:12,079
hopkinsville goblin

893
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,720
invasion yes back in 1985 um nick i'll

894
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:19,359
tell i'll school you on this one um this

895
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:21,920
family in kentucky uh

896
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:24,800
these weird goblin-like creatures showed

897
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,400
up in the middle of the night on their

898
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,560
like property and were like just

899
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,720
surrounding this house and they like

900
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,480
went out shooting at these things

901
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,160
bullets were bouncing off of them they

902
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:36,400
were like floating in midair it was like

903
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,599
a weird

904
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,680
battle going on between these like alien

905
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,280
goblins in this

906
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:43,520
terrified family and dean was very

907
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:46,400
inspired by this supposed real event

908
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:48,560
that happened back in the 50s like the

909
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,400
air force came and investigated it part

910
00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,240
of project blue book which was an

911
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,079
official air force investigation that's

912
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,800
like a legit thing right

913
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:58,640
it's like a legit sorry i'm probably the

914
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,040
least knowing oh and nick if i've

915
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,880
learned anything doing this with ryan

916
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,440
it's that once you watch enough of these

917
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,480
movies

918
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,640
all of those terms will just that it'll

919
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,119
become also become an old hat to you

920
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:13,440
exactly

921
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:14,880
i was like okay project blue book

922
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,480
clearly something really important

923
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:20,800
blue book ran for like 12 years and it

924
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:23,760
was a real program that the air force

925
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,359
did to go investigate ufos and um they

926
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,119
hired an astronomer to come in and like

927
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,520
debunk all these cases be like it was

928
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,680
the planet venus you saw or it was swamp

929
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,760
gas that's where that term swamp gas

930
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,599
comes from um or

931
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,520
you were yeah like stuff like that or

932
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,000
you mistook something like it was his

933
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:44,160
job to come in and be like i need to

934
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,880
like

935
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,720
quell the hysteria here in america

936
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,560
because this is back during the cold war

937
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,240
they didn't want people thinking like

938
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,720
our skies weren't safe so they hired

939
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:54,560
this astronomer to be like i'm going to

940
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,720
explain it all away um

941
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,119
and i think once project blue book

942
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:01,839
closed there were 701 cases that

943
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,240
remained unsolved and this astronomer

944
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,240
came out on the other side being like

945
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,079
holy [\h__\h] like there is something to

946
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:10,240
this ufo phenomenon things i cannot

947
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,359
explain things the air force told me to

948
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,680
legitimately cover up and he went

949
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:17,520
against all of that after and came

950
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:19,040
forward and said they told me to lie

951
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:20,480
about this they told me to lie about

952
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,200
this um that still remains unexplained

953
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,240
and he went to his grave being like wow

954
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,640
um i was hired to debunk all this and i

955
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,160
couldn't and there's something to this

956
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,560
so this this hopkinsville goblin thing

957
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:35,040
was a part of that um which is crazy so

958
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:36,560
that was kind of the inspiration i think

959
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,920
for dean to tell this story

960
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,520
yes

961
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:44,079
two things yeah uh

962
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,560
i don't want it to go on and i promise i

963
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,400
won't keep doing this uh without it

964
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,400
being said that my man anthony said it

965
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,560
looked like shock g in the comments and

966
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,400
i consider that

967
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:56,640
the highest of compliments anthony my

968
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:59,440
go-to karaoke song is the humpty dance

969
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:00,400
so

970
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:01,359
ah

971
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,040
i am i am i am quite quite fond of shock

972
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,920
g in the digital at mahi rested peace

973
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,320
in the digital underground and um just

974
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,160
that really

975
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,560
that got to my heart so thank you um the

976
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,160
other thing y'all

977
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,280
let's be real for a second because i do

978
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,079
i did very much enjoy the mcpherson tape

979
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,800
like i just full on i it was a great

980
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,240
it's it

981
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,320
it was just a lot of fun to watch and i

982
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:29,920
think especially when you think of it as

983
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:32,000
being passed to somebody else in their

984
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,599
basement that they watched thinking it

985
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,320
was real that's super fun

986
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,280
but i when watching it

987
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:41,359
um because and we're gonna get in this a

988
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:42,720
little bit later with some of the other

989
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:43,680
movies

990
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,240
is that i do think that some of these

991
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:49,599
um

992
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,359
when done correctly give you a little

993
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,839
bit to let you in to be like

994
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:55,119
it's not real

995
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,240
like there's always like a little

996
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,079
something for me

997
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,160
and this felt intense intentionally

998
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:02,240
probably for budgetary reasons because

999
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,520
from what i saw he shot this for 6 500

1000
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,760
which is really impressive

1001
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:09,599
um

1002
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:14,390
nobody thought those aliens

1003
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,190
of this i i talk about that i i i just

1004
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:23,599
saw that and maybe it's because

1005
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,400
you know maybe after years of nazi and i

1006
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,839
think so

1007
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,680
ryan that communion book cover that's

1008
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,079
like around the same time right

1009
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,560
yeah it wasn't and wasn't that the first

1010
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,960
time that like grays really broke out

1011
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,880
into popular culture keep talking i'm

1012
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:41,040
gonna grab the book okay perfect i

1013
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,240
remember talking about that because ryan

1014
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,920
and i talked about communion before for

1015
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:47,040
his podcast um i think last year and

1016
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,359
grays as the i believe they're called um

1017
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,240
where there we go that that look of a

1018
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:56,400
gray with the whatever shape the head is

1019
00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:59,599
and the eyes the slit nose that was just

1020
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,960
becoming popularized and a lot of it is

1021
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:04,240
because of that book cover right does

1022
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,680
that book cover have a date on it do you

1023
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,119
know what year that was um so the book

1024
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,040
came out in um let me double check here

1025
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,880
uh and i want to get this right because

1026
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:14,960
this is a pinnacle book in your you

1027
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,240
followed you 87 1987 okay so i would

1028
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,319
even love to ask dean if he had seen the

1029
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,319
book ahead of time or if he had thought

1030
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,480
it like gotten that idea um from

1031
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,240
somewhere else maybe he was one of the

1032
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,640
early adapters um

1033
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,280
but i just i guess again because we're

1034
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:33,119
talking within context

1035
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,560
um at the time maybe that

1036
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,040
got people i don't know i just and i and

1037
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,599
it's it is he shot it on 6 500 and it's

1038
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,280
still there's a lot of fun stuff about

1039
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:45,040
the aliens but i saw that and i was like

1040
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,680
okay this isn't letting us know that

1041
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,200
this isn't real

1042
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,200
right let's talk about let's talk about

1043
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,119
the first time you see them nick i'm

1044
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,440
sorry buddy oh no i was yeah go ahead i

1045
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,880
wanted to add that was the thing that i

1046
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:58,160
thought watched this movie the only

1047
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:59,520
thing i would have liked more and it's

1048
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,839
funny now that i watch movies as i'm

1049
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,560
older uh i appreciate what i don't see

1050
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,400
so i remember seeing blair witch project

1051
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:07,760
and being like we don't see the [\h__\h]

1052
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:10,240
witch um still being freaked the [\h__\h]

1053
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,680
out by it the whole time but i remember

1054
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:13,440
being like you know whatever age i was

1055
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,319
my early teens or almost teenager and

1056
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,640
wanting that moment i'm wanting the

1057
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,880
tangible thing and now as i'm older and

1058
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,720
i watch stuff i'm like no sometimes not

1059
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,880
seeing something

1060
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,240
is more effective and that's what i

1061
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:28,000
thought with the film i was like man i

1062
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:30,800
would have loved to have not seen the

1063
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:33,680
[\h__\h] alien and like just let it like

1064
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:36,000
it's like the [\h__\h] end of the spoiler

1065
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:37,440
just like yeah go to black if something

1066
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:39,680
happened because it's so grainy anyway

1067
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,640
that you i lost so much detail

1068
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,119
you know that and in a way that i liked

1069
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:46,720
that i almost would have rather just not

1070
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,839
seen them and then i would have been

1071
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,760
getting that much more

1072
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,119
like concrete because yeah as soon as

1073
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,800
they walked in i was like oh those are

1074
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,200
some well if you're like me my people or

1075
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,119
um you know they're making some like

1076
00:42:02,950 --> 00:41:59,359
yeah or you know i'm like okay yep that

1077
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,960
is sure yeah um

1078
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:04,960
i was like

1079
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,119
okay i get why it's happening

1080
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,280
but like yeah i would have loved to just

1081
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:13,119
not see them or just kept the one the

1082
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,319
body like you see them carrying in the

1083
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,800
body and i was like okay hidden enough

1084
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,720
that it still kind of worked

1085
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,480
for me because one of the things that

1086
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,920
whenever i deal or watch anything with

1087
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,280
aliens

1088
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:24,560
and this is across the board for all the

1089
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,079
films we're gonna see like and i

1090
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,640
understand that there is

1091
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:30,319
i mean obviously if there's aliens

1092
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,280
there's lots of different kinds of

1093
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:33,200
aliens right so there's lots of kinds of

1094
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,680
species of things all over the place um

1095
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,520
but the idea of the gray

1096
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,160
is such a common

1097
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:42,240
idea that we see right like it's such an

1098
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,040
easy thing to go to that like

1099
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,800
it almost breaks me out of it it almost

1100
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:48,319
breaks again it leads me out of the

1101
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,839
illusion of what i'm watching and that

1102
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,440
was something like i just i would have

1103
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,520
rather not seen an alien

1104
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,359
it's so funny you mentioned that nick

1105
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:58,800
like i get reports of people um

1106
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:01,119
claiming to have seen these gray beings

1107
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,800
or having been abducted by them and

1108
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:07,040
when i hear when i have them describe it

1109
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,520
and it's this prototypical gray alien i

1110
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:12,480
do kind of be like ah well like

1111
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,599
either

1112
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:15,680
this is a pattern and all these people

1113
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,079
are being abducted by the same beings or

1114
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,560
you just saw that in pop culture and

1115
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,079
that's what you went with so i i

1116
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,720
struggle with that as a ufo researcher

1117
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:27,119
in and an individual who is very

1118
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,400
empathetic to

1119
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,240
uh what we call experiencers people who

1120
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,000
have claimed to have experienced these

1121
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,160
things and again i'm like this this

1122
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,640
discussion tonight isn't about judging

1123
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:38,079
uh those who have claimed alien

1124
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,760
abductions or anything like that but i

1125
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,079
understand what you're saying um the

1126
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,560
weirder the reports are that come to me

1127
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,040
the more obscure the more i tend to

1128
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:49,040
believe it um that it's not the same

1129
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,480
story i've heard over and over again

1130
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,640
right right and i just wouldn't get it

1131
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,560
more scared like just being an audience

1132
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:55,599
member like

1133
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,560
i am always more scared of what i do not

1134
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:00,800
get to see especially in sound footage

1135
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,640
stuff because like it's like oh we're

1136
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,200
going to set the shot up perfectly so

1137
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:07,040
you get reveal like andrew said like the

1138
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,560
nod that this isn't real is when you get

1139
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,599
that like

1140
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,920
perfect reveal of the thing that's

1141
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:13,359
coming after you when that doesn't

1142
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:14,400
happen

1143
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,200
camera to me that's way spookier because

1144
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,200
my mind especially is like a theater

1145
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,800
creator starts

1146
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,560
yeah sorry bless you

1147
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,079
starts to fill in the

1148
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,240
yeah i gotta agree with

1149
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:30,560
yeah with that with that point

1150
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:31,359
yeah

1151
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,720
it like and i get because i get what

1152
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,560
you're saying nick and i don't disagree

1153
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,960
but my counter question would be

1154
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,240
what if

1155
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,920
it was something that you had seen um

1156
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:44,960
uh

1157
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:46,640
oh close encounters are the third kind

1158
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,880
okay yeah yeah i tend to forget about

1159
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:51,599
that movie okay yeah yeah yeah which um

1160
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:53,119
hold on one sec

1161
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,880
i should mention

1162
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,440
uh this poster behind me is from close

1163
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:59,119
encounters of the third night yeah yeah

1164
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,920
yeah yeah

1165
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,560
yeah um oh my gosh the artist is

1166
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:04,400
escaping me but i will put a link in the

1167
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,839
show notes um just by chance i got that

1168
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:08,880
uh because i thought it looked

1169
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:12,000
halloweeny and ufoe so yeah i thought i

1170
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,160
would mention that but um yeah yeah my

1171
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,920
counter question nick would be like so

1172
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,520
in um

1173
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:19,040
do you think and i know obviously it's

1174
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:20,160
hard to put yourself in a certain

1175
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:21,359
position after you've already watched

1176
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,720
something yeah but um if you let's say

1177
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:26,560
you saw this even if you knew it was a

1178
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:30,560
movie you know in 1989 um

1179
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,319
and this was a concept for an alien that

1180
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:35,119
you may not have seen that often do you

1181
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,480
think that would have given you any kind

1182
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,720
of leniency or i mean

1183
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,480
it's all context right like it's all in

1184
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,920
a matter of like what you're used to

1185
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:42,800
seeing

1186
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:45,599
at a given time right so yeah i'm sure

1187
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,119
like that's i mean

1188
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,440
dude killer quantum outer space scared

1189
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:51,280
the living [\h__\h] out of me when i was

1190
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,839
looking pretty scary looking my brother

1191
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,880
would be like we're gonna watch this

1192
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,720
[\h__\h] now i'd be like no

1193
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,480
so i'm sure if i watch this even as like

1194
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,560
even as a younger viewer right this

1195
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:02,160
somehow floated into our house because

1196
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:03,520
my brother loves scary movies i would

1197
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:06,400
have been like oh my god oh my god

1198
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:07,200
um

1199
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,319
i'm just saying if we're looking at it

1200
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,599
like constructively like if you're gonna

1201
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,839
make a film like that where budget where

1202
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,680
budget is an issue right so clearly i'm

1203
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,359
sure i would love to know

1204
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,440
that like you saved your budget for that

1205
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:19,280
right like that's the thing that like

1206
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:20,560
you're gonna spend your money on to

1207
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,920
create that moment

1208
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,440
but would it have been more effective to

1209
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:26,160
not see it so like them walking in the

1210
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:29,119
room in that way yeah um i i get that

1211
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,640
what about this standing in front of the

1212
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,160
ship moment

1213
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:33,760
what's that what about the standing in

1214
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,319
front of the ship moment um oh not like

1215
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:38,000
that either no see it's funny because

1216
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,280
for the first time

1217
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,599
that happened so fast okay when it's

1218
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:42,960
about like the great the quality of the

1219
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,280
video adding adding to the film for me

1220
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,520
because it feels like high def like that

1221
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,680
kind of stuff for me passed i loved it

1222
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,760
because i couldn't like it happened so

1223
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,680
fast and i was trying to like make out

1224
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,880
what was gone same thing as i'm carrying

1225
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,800
the alien in like

1226
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,800
there's enough that's kind of hidden

1227
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:01,040
from me that it worked it was just the

1228
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:01,920
end

1229
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,160
like those are people in a costume yeah

1230
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:08,240
like so even like a teenage mute would

1231
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,440
have been like those are people in a

1232
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,119
costume in a costume all right that's

1233
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:13,119
fair well i'm glad andrew brought up the

1234
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,200
ship um so i'm i'm just going to kind of

1235
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:16,640
fast forward through the plot just in

1236
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,880
case people haven't really seen it so

1237
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:20,000
you know it's this little girl's

1238
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,839
birthday she blows out her candles then

1239
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,240
the power goes out so these brothers

1240
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:25,760
older brothers go out to fix the

1241
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,040
electricity and um they end up going

1242
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:30,800
uh they see something

1243
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,280
kind of like i don't know if it like

1244
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,440
zips by or crash lands but they see

1245
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:37,119
something go off in the distance in the

1246
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,079
woods so they go out and you know the

1247
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:42,240
teenager who's still filming all of this

1248
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,520
because he's like oh this is kind of

1249
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,079
cool um they see

1250
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,280
literally a landed ufo in like kind of

1251
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,520
it looks kind of like a gorge or

1252
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,440
um like a gully whatever you would call

1253
00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,359
that and um

1254
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,280
a ravine thank you nick

1255
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,839
that's the east coast coming out with me

1256
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:02,559
a gorge i got midwest right here

1257
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:03,440
yep

1258
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,160
that ship we see like kind of remnants

1259
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,480
of a ufo and some little aliens in front

1260
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,559
of it um i mean dean built that ship

1261
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,319
from scratch i think it's so cool

1262
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,880
plywood and cool like paper mache and

1263
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,040
stuff it's really impressive it's so

1264
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,960
good it's so impressive i have to give

1265
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:22,720
him credit and like you know we had a

1266
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,720
couple people on set with him but like

1267
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,200
this was as skeleton crew as it comes

1268
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:29,200
and i i'm just amazed at what he was

1269
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,400
able to do

1270
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,200
with that but um moving back to the plot

1271
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,079
so they see it the aliens see them so

1272
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:38,000
they run back into the house tell the

1273
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,160
rest of the family there's [\h__\h]

1274
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,240
literally there's [\h__\h] aliens out

1275
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:44,400
there and then the family gets all

1276
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,960
worked up and then what happens the

1277
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,200
aliens start to move in on the house and

1278
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,760
you get that kind of typical um

1279
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:53,839
aliens trap them in the house thing like

1280
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:57,119
the hopkins about goblins or signs signs

1281
00:49:02,710 --> 00:48:59,599
was incredibly inspired by the

1282
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,720
hopkinsville goblin case as well um

1283
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:04,559
and i think another one of our films

1284
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,599
that we're going to talk about was

1285
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:06,960
inspired by

1286
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,680
either signs or the mcpherson tape um

1287
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,680
but yeah that's kind of the story we

1288
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,880
don't have to go through the whole thing

1289
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,800
yeah um they're trying to fend off these

1290
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,400
aliens they shoot one

1291
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:18,720
um bring it into the house put it in a

1292
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,520
bedroom um and then the brothers try to

1293
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,520
go i don't know find the cops or

1294
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,240
something and they never

1295
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:28,319
come back so you're kind of left with

1296
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,119
the rest of the family to

1297
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,359
fend for themselves as uh this invasion

1298
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:35,520
happens oh man yeah anything else

1299
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,880
don't bring him inside what are you

1300
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,240
gonna say that's why why would you bring

1301
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,599
them inside [\h__\h] are you bringing that

1302
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,520
thing into your house i guess well yeah

1303
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:43,520
there's a lot of first question and i

1304
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:46,319
think i i i grant this some leeway in

1305
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,839
that kind of stuff um just because

1306
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:52,960
i think that um we

1307
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,800
now know that people do a lot of stupid

1308
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,960
things for no reason i think that's true

1309
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,520
like if you can't accept that

1310
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:01,040
fantastic i mean it's a good thing i

1311
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,079
mean i'm like

1312
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:04,240
tv being like don't do it right right

1313
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:05,200
right

1314
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,640
but there are a couple things there's

1315
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,400
one thing i i just have to say and this

1316
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:11,040
probably look on a week of rehearsal i'm

1317
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:12,480
i'm impressed with what they were able

1318
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,480
to get done i will say i thought the

1319
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,079
improv was great and i'm not even sure

1320
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:18,000
was there a full script ryan or was it

1321
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,520
improv most okay

1322
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:22,160
he gave them like a premise of the scene

1323
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:26,240
and they did everything um i

1324
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,599
i feel like there were times there were

1325
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,440
just a couple times and this could again

1326
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:32,000
giving a week of rehearsal um where they

1327
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,599
just all

1328
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,200
not all of them but a lot of them had

1329
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:37,200
like kind of actory moments and a lot of

1330
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:38,720
them had when things had to do with

1331
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,200
things where it's like uh okay for this

1332
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,839
one part though you have to say

1333
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,000
there's an alien outside of that like

1334
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,920
whenever they were fed lions you could

1335
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:49,920
really tell and i was just like oh

1336
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:52,640
that's kind of well it's charming i i

1337
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,040
think there's a lot of charm to this

1338
00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,040
movie it's i don't fault it for those

1339
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,960
kind of things it's just like i wouldn't

1340
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:00,319
fault um

1341
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,440
clerks for some of the uh some of the

1342
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,040
line reads that are in that movie like

1343
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,280
there's there is just only so much you

1344
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,200
can do with that budget and that amount

1345
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:12,240
of time and i think that they really did

1346
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,240
a lot i think they did a lot that was

1347
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,319
impressive and some of the moments [\h__\h]

1348
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,000
happens with big budgets too i mean

1349
00:51:20,829 --> 00:51:19,440
exactly

1350
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:20,839
yes you know what i mean

1351
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:22,160
right i watch all the time i'm like this

1352
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,440
is really good and you get to point your

1353
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,440
like i mean especially as like a person

1354
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:27,359
who teaches performance right and you

1355
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:28,720
get like

1356
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,520
oh

1357
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,520
yeah or if i'm performing and like i'm

1358
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,750
i think that's that's the nature of the

1359
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,160
beast i think sometimes yeah right well

1360
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:39,680
and you know i think this is a good

1361
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,200
point to um

1362
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:43,040
to mention too uh

1363
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:43,839
this

1364
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:46,960
became pretty popular that people at uh

1365
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,079
dick clark productions um saw it and

1366
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,680
said this is awesome we we let's do this

1367
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:55,440
and they hired dean

1368
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,599
to remake this with like a 1.5 million

1369
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,400
dollar budget instead of 6 500

1370
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,240
and it's almost shot for shot i'm not

1371
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:05,760
kidding you

1372
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:09,040
but this was mind you upn who hired all

1373
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,839
the actors and stuff so talk about like

1374
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:14,480
knowing something's fake you've got like

1375
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:16,880
just eating the scenery

1376
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,960
one of the kids from space cases was in

1377
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,760
there yeah oh my god dude that was

1378
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,359
very that's how i knew it was fake the

1379
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,280
kid with the ears the kid with the ears

1380
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:27,359
from space really like three years in

1381
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,400
the mullet

1382
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,400
also space cases i was trying to think

1383
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,480
about what that show is called yeah good

1384
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:34,559
news

1385
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,599
that show

1386
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,440
maybe somebody out there can help me i

1387
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,800
feel like that show is hard to find i

1388
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,559
don't understand all the things that

1389
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:42,480
were put on paramount plus i could watch

1390
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,839
are you afraid of the dark reckless

1391
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,040
modern life

1392
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,119
uh nick arcade all kinds of stuff i

1393
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,119
can't watch space guys no

1394
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,200
i can't watch kills

1395
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:52,400
i can watch

1396
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:53,200
um

1397
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:11,910
it's on paramount plus yeah

1398
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:12,829
no more

1399
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,760
digressions i'm like yo zach from power

1400
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,160
rangers is on that show

1401
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,640
and then julie julie stays

1402
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,960
uh jewel jewels the one who ended up

1403
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,160
being um

1404
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,960
firefly firefly right so i watched

1405
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,480
forward on disney and then she was in

1406
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,640
that show and i was like you are

1407
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:32,559
beautiful

1408
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:34,480
and uh therefore and then she was gone

1409
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,599
the second season i was like you just

1410
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,920
rock pg nick keep it peachy buddy disney

1411
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:39,680
you robbed me and nickelodeon you robbed

1412
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:41,839
me that [\h__\h] was great anthony clerk

1413
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,839
says oh my god the best

1414
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,520
um let's see

1415
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,040
let's let's run through a few of these

1416
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,599
comments thanks mary for being here ufo

1417
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:51,920
i like science too i like science too

1418
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,839
science is a great movie i love signs

1419
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,559
um

1420
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:58,480
i saw that i love it don't forget

1421
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,839
braxton um let's let's i guess um

1422
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:03,200
because we could talk about

1423
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,400
we could talk about all these movies

1424
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,800
forever yeah yeah geez we've been going

1425
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:09,359
for almost 55 minutes already guys um

1426
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:10,800
any let me see if there's anything else

1427
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:13,760
i want to really hit here um

1428
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:16,559
so you know it kind of

1429
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,119
what did i miss

1430
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,720
please continue

1431
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,480
all right um

1432
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,400
i love you guys i love you guys this is

1433
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:26,559
a side of me that my my viewers and

1434
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,680
listeners don't see often ryan and like

1435
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,240
reader in film mode with my two best

1436
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:34,880
friends um so i hope i hope people are

1437
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:37,760
digging this um so so what do we got

1438
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,559
dead alien in the bedroom the family is

1439
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,000
kind of like dealing with all these

1440
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,760
weird paranormal things going on in the

1441
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,760
house that the aliens are probably a

1442
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:47,520
part of um

1443
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:50,960
and then we get to the end of the movie

1444
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,680
and um this is interesting you know

1445
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,839
they're trying to calm down keep the

1446
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,000
young daughter like

1447
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:00,799
you know distracted from all this and

1448
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:03,839
then we get the final shots of the movie

1449
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:06,640
um which while i agree

1450
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:10,000
you know looked a little cheesy um i

1451
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,230
that's a great angle and yeah you're

1452
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,040
just seeing these creatures walk quietly

1453
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:21,839
into the home i was just like oh my god

1454
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,720
like look look look over please look

1455
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,079
over and then

1456
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,160
movie cuts out and it's them and i love

1457
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,720
too it's the the family playing cards i

1458
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:33,119
love that um idea that they keep trying

1459
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:34,880
to um

1460
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,200
calm each other down you know especially

1461
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,880
given that there's a five-year-old there

1462
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,960
yeah like it's it's really

1463
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,640
there's something very human about the

1464
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,119
whole thing that i really um

1465
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:46,880
that i just really appreciated and i

1466
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,839
think um was really well done and really

1467
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,040
helps

1468
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,720
enjoy

1469
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,960
the movie the picture like it's it's

1470
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,960
it's it there's this

1471
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:58,480
not even just

1472
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:01,040
heart necessarily there is this humanity

1473
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,720
to it that i think

1474
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,960
is a good hook for something that is a

1475
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,640
found footage movie and it

1476
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,960
it feels

1477
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:11,040
like it is found footage

1478
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:13,040
i i really appreciate it there are some

1479
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:14,480
things that are a little contrived that

1480
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,839
happens but i appreciated that the tone

1481
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:19,920
the vibe even when crazy [\h__\h] is going

1482
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,240
on it feels very found footage i also

1483
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:25,200
love the excuse of uh keeping the camera

1484
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:26,960
around and this is i feel like this

1485
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:29,200
would be a thing that would be done

1486
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,559
now which is kind of funny um

1487
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,559
which is the whole like oh that thing's

1488
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,079
huge and it's on your shoulder like get

1489
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,319
it i love that that was happening in

1490
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:40,559
real time like i've been like six years

1491
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,599
removed because i know it's supposed to

1492
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,839
take place in 83 but that was that's how

1493
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:45,280
somebody would have reacted at the time

1494
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,319
and i just think that's funny that

1495
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,240
that's cat like captured like a little

1496
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,160
time cap

1497
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,079
i remember my family got a camera like

1498
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:55,359
that i mean dude it came out all the

1499
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:57,440
[\h__\h]

1500
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,880
sure i mean

1501
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,720
just because like you know for my

1502
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,240
parents who are old so my parents are

1503
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,440
older are much older they're from

1504
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:05,119
they're born in the 40s so for them like

1505
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:06,720
this shit's just i mean when that came

1506
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:08,720
into our house it was revolutionary oh

1507
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:10,000
yeah well i mean think about the first

1508
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,880
time you got a camera phone oh

1509
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,720
everything yeah

1510
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,240
thank you anthony thank you for that

1511
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,160
super chat we have to still have fun

1512
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,680
discussing it while seriously talking

1513
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,599
about it it gets so dry at times keep it

1514
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:24,079
fun he's totally right like this is

1515
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,319
that's what tonight is for like we will

1516
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,920
leave the abduction phenomenon the

1517
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,920
serious nature of it at the door we're

1518
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:31,839
here tonight to talk about some kind of

1519
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,960
fun

1520
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,720
i think we're gonna have i'm gonna have

1521
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,720
to talk about that later and you know me

1522
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,480
right

1523
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,559
now i know we're slowly moving but i

1524
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:41,760
thought this is a really good example

1525
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,880
too in films like where good like having

1526
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:46,240
a very clear purpose of what you're

1527
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,440
trying to do like this is what i'm

1528
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,200
trying to accomplish with this film and

1529
00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:51,760
then good storytelling can

1530
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,799
over like overshadow a lot of what would

1531
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,880
seem uh

1532
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,640
shortfalls or seeing problems like

1533
00:58:01,589 --> 00:58:00,559
budget like but knowing like knowing

1534
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,599
what you want to do and it's so

1535
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,280
impressive that it was the first one to

1536
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:05,359
watch that and be like this director

1537
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,319
knew

1538
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,720
what he wanted to do with this it was

1539
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:10,960
clear and he executed it so beautifully

1540
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,880
it just goes to show the storytelling

1541
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,640
how much that can

1542
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,720
really especially go into films later on

1543
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,319
um how much like a clear idea of

1544
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,720
storytelling can really

1545
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:23,280
bolster what you're doing yeah yeah yeah

1546
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:26,240
and it can it can like a story and an

1547
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,400
actor can really make something that

1548
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,640
might lack in other ways like really

1549
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:32,960
shine and i think this cast just

1550
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:35,599
they they they seemed like a real family

1551
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,559
and it just seemed so authentic to me i

1552
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,319
loved the grandmother i thought she was

1553
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,480
oh my god fantastic and i thought i said

1554
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,000
i saw somebody in the comments saying

1555
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:45,839
that she is like they thought she had an

1556
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,319
actual answer that's wild um no i

1557
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,920
thought she was i was the story at her

1558
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,520
audition i believe and they were really

1559
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,839
cool she's cast she's cat yeah she was

1560
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,520
great she was yeah yeah yeah yeah she

1561
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:58,480
was really ruffled grandma you know

1562
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,079
yeah there's aliens out there what

1563
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,319
there's no a like what are you talking

1564
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:04,480
and i love i

1565
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:06,640
again this is not a criticism i i just

1566
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:08,000
think this is funny

1567
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:08,880
that

1568
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:13,040
talk those dudes down they just saw

1569
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,880
something that should

1570
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,640
break their brain

1571
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,559
and they and they were just like no it's

1572
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:20,000
fine they're like they hug it out

1573
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,839
they're like all right i'm good i'm good

1574
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,599
you know what you're let's go play cause

1575
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,319
i can ask like it's i did

1576
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,480
birthday party commence yeah it was

1577
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,440
pretty interesting um that's crazy well

1578
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,200
um let's do this guys i've got a short

1579
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:35,200
um short i've got about a five minute

1580
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,720
clip from dean who wanted to give his

1581
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:38,400
thoughts on a lot of this for the

1582
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,720
audience so um if you want if you guys

1583
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,720
wanna go take a a little break i'm gonna

1584
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:44,160
go ahead and play that for the audience

1585
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:49,829
absolutely um you're going to be able to

1586
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:51,440
watch it right now let me make sure i

1587
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,079
have this ready to go enjoy guys this is

1588
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:56,720
dean eliot talking about the movie ryan

1589
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:58,480
and andrew i heard that you guys are

1590
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,760
going to be reviewing my film the

1591
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,839
mcpherson tape and that you wanted me to

1592
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,839
comment on the making of it and also

1593
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,240
talk about my journey into the ufo alien

1594
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,400
abduction phenomenon rabbit hall this

1595
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,640
film was made for two reasons

1596
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,720
the first was i had to make my first

1597
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,359
feature by the age of 25 because all of

1598
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:17,599
my film directing idols like spielberg

1599
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,240
and scorsese had done that and the

1600
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:22,400
second reason is that i had read whitley

1601
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,640
strieber's book communion which scared

1602
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:26,640
the [\h__\h] out of me more than any stephen

1603
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:29,280
king novel had ever done and so i i felt

1604
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,880
compelled to share this with an audience

1605
01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:35,040
but but have them feel it as close as

1606
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,280
they they can without actually being

1607
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,280
abducted and so i came up with the

1608
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:41,440
conceit of shooting it through the lens

1609
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,559
of a 16 year old's new home video camera

1610
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,720
this is 10 years before blair witch so

1611
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:48,480
there was no kind of reference for oh

1612
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,480
i'll just do a found footage film it was

1613
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:53,359
more of well i've shot wedding videos

1614
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:56,559
so uh maybe if i just take this as an

1615
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,000
event a little girl's five-year-old

1616
01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:59,599
birthday party and have this kid

1617
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,160
videotape it and then conflate the two

1618
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,280
where all of a sudden here this ufo

1619
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,119
sighting happens and they go out to

1620
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:08,799
investigate and they see this ship in

1621
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,400
aliens and then one by one they get

1622
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,240
abducted and it's all caught on

1623
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:13,920
videotape i thought that would be as

1624
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,680
close as possible as i can get to

1625
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:17,359
approximating what that experience would

1626
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:18,559
be like

1627
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,280
so

1628
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,280
i set about doing this i only had a

1629
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:23,359
budget of 6 500 bucks

1630
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,319
i hired improvisational actors

1631
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,040
out of san francisco the bay area

1632
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,200
this was shot just outside of that

1633
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:33,359
and we went about shooting this in

1634
01:01:37,109 --> 01:01:35,280
essentially one night

1635
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:37,119
i play the kid

1636
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:41,040
michael and i have a headset on that i'm

1637
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:42,480
communicating to all the assistant

1638
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,520
directors so i'm telling them

1639
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:47,200
cure the alien ship

1640
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,720
cue the aliens

1641
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,799
and i'm trying to stay in character as a

1642
01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:52,559
kid with this camera it was a blast it

1643
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,559
was very much like shooting a live

1644
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,559
sporting event for the aliens i took a

1645
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,559
page out of the spielberg alien

1646
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,559
directing playbook and hired kids to

1647
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:02,640
play the aliens three girls and that was

1648
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:05,200
it we had 750 bucks for the shipment

1649
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:08,000
alien masks and rubber hands you know we

1650
01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:09,760
had no idea really what we had because

1651
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:11,359
it was so experimental was just let's

1652
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:13,440
just go out and shoot this and what we

1653
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:15,760
get is you know what we're meant to get

1654
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:18,400
we actually got a distribution deal and

1655
01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,160
the film was set to get released

1656
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:21,839
unfortunately the distribution company

1657
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,520
burned to the ground and lost my main

1658
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,960
master in all my artwork and i thought

1659
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,280
well that was it and it was

1660
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,359
for five years and then i received a

1661
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,599
call from someone claiming that he had

1662
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:33,359
been to the international ufo congress

1663
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,160
convention where my film had been shown

1664
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,559
as the real mccoy a lieutenant colonel

1665
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:40,720
and a ufo researcher

1666
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,319
claimed it was authentic

1667
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:44,640
and it supposedly brought the house down

1668
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:46,000
and there were several tv shows that

1669
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:48,720
wanted to do specials shows like

1670
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,599
unsolved mysteries encounters etc and so

1671
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:53,440
i went on one of these shows and

1672
01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:56,799
debunked it because my feeling was i

1673
01:03:01,589 --> 01:02:59,440
admire ufo researchers and and you know

1674
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:01,599
trying to get to the truth and they sure

1675
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:03,920
as hell don't need to be going down any

1676
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,240
more blind alleys that

1677
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:08,720
are seem to be created every month by

1678
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,920
fake ufo makers and so uh i debunked the

1679
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:14,400
film on national tv

1680
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:16,000
and again i thought well that was it

1681
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,680
that was my kind of you know 15 minutes

1682
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:19,760
of fame on this project and then flash

1683
01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:22,160
forward a few years later and

1684
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,799
i'm at upn and i'm pitching them

1685
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:27,119
a tv movie version of this

1686
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:30,000
and now my budget was 1.25 million and

1687
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,760
we got the guys from the x-files to do

1688
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,599
the shipping aliens and again thought

1689
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,520
that was it you know it came out did

1690
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,880
really well

1691
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:39,280
and um then several years went by and

1692
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:42,960
with the proliferation of online and

1693
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,119
chat rooms and farms and stuff a whole

1694
01:03:50,549 --> 01:03:47,680
new crop of conspiracy theories started

1695
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,559
building around this and it basically

1696
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,319
kind of cemented the cult status of the

1697
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,880
films and so just a few years ago i

1698
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,520
received a call from alejandro rojas and

1699
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,520
karen brard at the international ufo

1700
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:01,440
congress convention and for the 25th

1701
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:02,960
anniversary they wanted to show the film

1702
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,440
again and so that was kind of where part

1703
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:07,839
one of my journey as a filmmaker ended

1704
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,160
and my journey as someone getting sucked

1705
01:04:14,309 --> 01:04:12,799
into the ufo alien rabbit hole began at

1706
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:14,319
these conventions which i'd never gone

1707
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:16,960
to before i met a whole bunch of people

1708
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,760
who seemed highly credible i ended up

1709
01:04:23,349 --> 01:04:22,079
actually going to a couple ufo support

1710
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:23,359
group meetings

1711
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:24,319
and

1712
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,319
left being just completely both

1713
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:28,240
terrified and shocked by what i had

1714
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,760
witnessed there were people from all

1715
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:31,839
walks of life from supervisors of

1716
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:34,559
homeland security to doctors and lawyers

1717
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:36,559
uh major in the army a woman who had

1718
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:38,960
done ted talk highly credible people

1719
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:41,680
that were smart articulate and did not

1720
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,280
cause a blip to go off on my [\h__\h]

1721
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,359
meter so looking back on that film i'm

1722
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:47,520
really really grateful that people have

1723
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:48,960
kept it alive

1724
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:51,440
and have been inspired by it and some of

1725
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,280
them made their own films and that

1726
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:55,440
people in the ufo community have also

1727
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,039
found it inspiring and worthy of

1728
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,720
conversation and i look forward to doing

1729
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,039
more projects in that space and lastly

1730
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:03,039
and this is most important

1731
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:05,119
you can get my film at amazon you can

1732
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:06,480
get it on blu-ray and you can also

1733
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,720
stream it so thank you guys again for

1734
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,280
reviewing the film i'm honored uh i hope

1735
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:13,119
everyone digs it who hasn't seen it yet

1736
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:14,319
and look forward to creating more

1737
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:16,319
content in this space in the future

1738
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,349
awesome

1739
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:23,440
so that was dean coming in to give us

1740
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:26,240
the inside scoop on both versions of

1741
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:28,720
that um i hope you guys had a good break

1742
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,319
i'll bring you back in in just a sec

1743
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,799
nick's here i'll bring you in nick

1744
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:34,799
what's up buddy what's up

1745
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:36,400
um so yeah

1746
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:38,079
we got the inside scoop from dean i

1747
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:39,520
thought that was pretty cool to have

1748
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:42,079
pretty amazing

1749
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:42,880
um

1750
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:46,480
yeah what let's do it final rating

1751
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:53,829
i give it like like eight wait can we do

1752
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:56,960
one out of ten not using seven

1753
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:58,319
can't you see

1754
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,480
sure nick there's a whole so no listen

1755
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:02,640
there's a whole study that people do

1756
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:03,920
that if you say raise something from one

1757
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:06,799
out of ten most people will do seven and

1758
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:08,319
they don't want to go lower than seven

1759
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:10,240
because six is bad but they don't want

1760
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:11,520
to go higher than seven because i mean

1761
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,960
it's too good so if you eliminate seven

1762
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,200
seven point five you [\h__\h] no i'm

1763
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:18,720
just kidding no no and i'm actually

1764
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,640
gonna go much higher than that i'm gonna

1765
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:24,549
um

1766
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:26,079
because i think i would want to go

1767
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:27,680
especially out of the four that i

1768
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:30,079
watched ooh it's tough i'm gonna say 10

1769
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,440
out of 10. i'm gonna give it 10 out of

1770
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:33,680
10 flying saucers i really am i really

1771
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:36,240
enjoyed it i think i think nick nailed

1772
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:39,039
it that there's a clear intent admission

1773
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:41,440
to what's going on i think he executed

1774
01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:43,440
it really well um especially with the

1775
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:45,599
tools that he had at his hand and i

1776
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:48,240
think the fact that it

1777
01:06:53,349 --> 01:06:51,039
fooled a generation of people is pretty

1778
01:06:55,589 --> 01:06:53,359
is pretty impressive especially and i

1779
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:55,599
appreciate

1780
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,640
knowing that that was not his intent his

1781
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:00,559
intent was not to fool people i think

1782
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:05,990
and it's going to come up again later

1783
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,079
yeah good that's amazing i love that i'm

1784
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:09,839
really impressed by that really doesn't

1785
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:12,000
come up against it later really yes

1786
01:07:22,190 --> 01:07:19,829
i'm going to mix mine together um

1787
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,200
between nick's and yours i'll give it a

1788
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:24,400
9.5 i don't know what he could have

1789
01:07:26,549 --> 01:07:25,359
reached

1790
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,559
i don't know

1791
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,870
he had so much working against him so

1792
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:33,119
many challenges being the first of his

1793
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,440
kind um he had a lot to lose with this

1794
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:37,760
but i think this really cemented him as

1795
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:40,400
like a pioneer in filmmaking which was a

1796
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:43,280
dream of his um he probably never saw it

1797
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,000
like

1798
01:07:48,069 --> 01:07:46,480
being the first of something but he did

1799
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,079
so i give him all the credit in the

1800
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:50,160
world mcpherson for his movie getting

1801
01:07:53,589 --> 01:07:52,000
seen too because like when you make any

1802
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:53,599
kind of film it's such a [\h__\h] labor

1803
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:55,599
of love that like absolutely good for

1804
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:58,480
him well okay before we move to our next

1805
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:01,839
film very quick story i was in one of

1806
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:04,960
dean aliotto's newest horror movies um

1807
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:07,839
this was when i was living in l.a um he

1808
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:10,640
called me up he's like hey what would

1809
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:12,799
you think about playing a douchey

1810
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,359
paranormal investigator and i told him i

1811
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:17,440
don't really have to act i could do that

1812
01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:19,839
like it's it's fine um

1813
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,799
check done and i was all in um i hadn't

1814
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:26,239
acted in years um nick you know like i'm

1815
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,640
horrible at memorizing scripts and stuff

1816
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:30,880
i have like four lines and i couldn't

1817
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:34,000
even it was insane but um fast forward

1818
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:35,759
we shot in this

1819
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,239
incredible neighborhood in right outside

1820
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,799
l.a it was actually um

1821
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:42,480
the neighborhood where they shot

1822
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,600
nightmare on elm street and also the um

1823
01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:48,239
we we filmed next door to the thriller

1824
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,279
house from the thriller music video um

1825
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,040
it was so cool it's just like these

1826
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:55,839
really old haunted house looking

1827
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,239
um places in la you would never expect

1828
01:09:02,709 --> 01:08:59,759
these places to be there but lo and

1829
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:02,719
behold that's where they were so we um

1830
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,600
uh dean had scouted this house where

1831
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:06,960
we were

1832
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,520
playing like it was haunted and i'm like

1833
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:11,839
the the paranormal investigator who's

1834
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,799
super like trying to be cool and like

1835
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,799
everything we do is real like i'm the

1836
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:18,560
one who communicates with the ghosts

1837
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:22,000
nobody else can blah blah blah um

1838
01:09:26,870 --> 01:09:24,719
so we shoot the scene where we're

1839
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:26,880
walking up and my girlfriend jane is in

1840
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,600
the movie as well she plays a psychic um

1841
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,199
along with my ghost hunting crew i've

1842
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,600
got i've got the two big burly white

1843
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:35,839
bald dudes in the back like every ghost

1844
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:38,560
hunting crew has um every ghost hunting

1845
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:40,480
crew is all white andrew you'll have to

1846
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:42,400
explain that one to me why am i gonna

1847
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:44,560
wait now hold on a second

1848
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:45,679
why does andrew have to explain

1849
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,359
something to us is our resident not 100

1850
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:51,120
white guy i would like you to explain

1851
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:53,359
that why are all ghost hunters white

1852
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:54,800
yeah let me let me tell you about

1853
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:57,120
yourself don't you put that on me

1854
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,760
i'm sorry that's a lot of pressure

1855
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:01,920
there is literally a ghost hunting show

1856
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:04,640
with just african americans it's amazing

1857
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,560
i can i can give you half an answer on

1858
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:08,800
both

1859
01:10:14,830 --> 01:10:11,760
i love it i love it uh-oh i'm digging

1860
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:14,840
myself in a hole here let's move on

1861
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:15,920
um so

1862
01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:18,080
we're filming um i'll finish with this

1863
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,800
we were filming the scene and

1864
01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:23,040
um i go up to the door to like knock for

1865
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:25,840
like and nobody's home like the house is

1866
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,719
bacon it's been vacant forever or so we

1867
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,280
thought so i knock on the door and

1868
01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,520
that's like cut done um we're not going

1869
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:35,280
to show what goes on after that

1870
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,000
somebody had been living in the house

1871
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:40,640
and dean thought it was vacant and empty

1872
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:43,360
we were filming mind you on their front

1873
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:47,120
porch for almost two hours yeah and i go

1874
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:48,640
to knock on the door

1875
01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:50,239
you know being all like confident we're

1876
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:53,679
done we're done and the door flings open

1877
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,000
and this woman

1878
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,320
got in my face and she was like what the

1879
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:00,320
f what are you doing who are you what

1880
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:03,199
get off my property oh my god and then

1881
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:06,560
her husband came out and i swear i swear

1882
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,480
they had a gun i might not have seen it

1883
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:10,560
but they definitely were the type who

1884
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,360
would have shot us dead right there and

1885
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,080
oh my god man we had this really awkward

1886
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:18,640
exchange we ran into the car we got out

1887
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:20,480
of there and dean felt

1888
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:23,600
so bad he was like oh my god he's like i

1889
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:25,840
swear i checked this out i was told it

1890
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:28,719
was vacant like i knocked for almost 30

1891
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:31,360
minutes no one answered um and would you

1892
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:32,400
be there

1893
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:34,719
like these people looked like they had

1894
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,440
been squatting so it's very possible

1895
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:39,600
that they didn't even live there um but

1896
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,400
they were

1897
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:42,159
they had the crazy eyes so we got the

1898
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,920
hell out of there but um that was a

1899
01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:45,760
memorable experience of filming with

1900
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,320
dean eliot as i'm sure it was for

1901
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,480
mcpherson

1902
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:52,800
yeah yeah so check out the movie portal

1903
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:55,040
um which is on amazon right

1904
01:12:03,350 --> 01:11:58,560
you are starring yep and um starring i

1905
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:03,360
might add heather langenkemp from hey

1906
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:06,480
cool yeah i did not get the film

1907
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:09,360
she's uh she was uh uh nance nancy no

1908
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,960
was it you had the lead in the first

1909
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,239
night yeah the first one and then she

1910
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,760
shows up in the third one and then she's

1911
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,400
in my favorite one

1912
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:18,960
yeah yeah great [\h__\h] movie yeah i

1913
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:21,280
don't know how how they got her but um

1914
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,040
they got her and it's actually a pretty

1915
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:25,360
fun movie so check out portal by dean

1916
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:28,960
eliot but let's move on to our next film

1917
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:32,080
um we've got alien abduction uh nope we

1918
01:12:36,390 --> 01:12:34,159
don't i fast forward it too much sorry

1919
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:36,400
guys we have slumber party

1920
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:38,000
yeah

1921
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,440
um 2013. like andrew mentioned this is a

1922
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,080
segment from the movie vhs2

1923
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:46,000
um so for any of you guys who don't know

1924
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:48,080
these vhs movies are they all kind of

1925
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,360
have that like

1926
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,120
found footage feel like this is supposed

1927
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,760
to be vhs as you dug yeah or whatnot am

1928
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:55,760
i right and i think it also gives the

1929
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,320
kind of and i'm sure uh maybe jason when

1930
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:59,920
you spoke to him earlier maybe he spoke

1931
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,040
to this but

1932
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:03,120
i feel like it is well i mean the setup

1933
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:05,199
for this particular one um is these

1934
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:06,719
people who break into a house and they

1935
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,800
find all these tapes like

1936
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:09,840
they broke into the wrong house

1937
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:12,560
essentially um but i feel like it has

1938
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,880
that kind of like tape swap feel to it

1939
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,560
these movies like you know like oh

1940
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,640
you're passing these vhs is around like

1941
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,800
that's how you see faces of death or how

1942
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:23,199
you see like you know it's

1943
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,760
it's um

1944
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:27,120
yeah i don't know it has that kind of

1945
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,719
feel to it the movies and i really love

1946
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:30,800
there's a lot of fun stuff in vhs too i

1947
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:32,880
think that one i i saw that one and i

1948
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:34,080
remember actually there are a couple

1949
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,440
segments that i thought were really

1950
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:37,120
really standouts one of the other

1951
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:39,840
segments is done by eduardo sanchez who

1952
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,159
did um blair witch

1953
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:44,560
absolutely yes exactly we got it we were

1954
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:47,040
in good company here for sure um this

1955
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:49,760
was a and adamson guard did one of them

1956
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:50,800
sorry

1957
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,480
yeah no no dude

1958
01:13:56,310 --> 01:13:54,239
they were packed and that's that's

1959
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,320
what's so cool is like these anthology

1960
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,480
series they get these really talented

1961
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:00,480
people to kind of give their own take on

1962
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,239
things put them all together it's like

1963
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:04,320
having a a play festival you know yeah

1964
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:06,000
so you get a bunch of different visions

1965
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:07,760
and stories being told written and

1966
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:10,400
directed by jason eisner who um for

1967
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:12,960
those of you who don't know um he has a

1968
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,199
funny film called i think hobo with a

1969
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:17,600
shotgun yes um yes which made it into

1970
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:19,760
the grind house uh he won that he won a

1971
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:22,560
competition and he made it into

1972
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:25,120
the grindhouse uh fake trailer thing

1973
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:26,880
he's also behind one of my favorite

1974
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:29,120
shows dark side of the ring i will say

1975
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:32,480
that i wore my foley cosplay tonight um

1976
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,960
half because i knew we were covering a

1977
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,719
movie that jason did and i think y'all

1978
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:39,120
even if you are not a wrestling fan

1979
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:41,040
watch dark side of the ring ryan was

1980
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,520
just telling me about it

1981
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,840
it's a phenomenal show the documentaries

1982
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,760
um the the stuff that they are able to

1983
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,840
uncover the speaking of humanity the

1984
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:51,280
heart and humanity that they bring to a

1985
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,640
lot of those stories and they bring

1986
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:54,719
attention to wrestlers and

1987
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,000
stories about certain wrestlers that

1988
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,000
really don't get as much attention as

1989
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,239
they should western's a hard [\h__\h]

1990
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:02,080
life really all right

1991
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,679
like anything like there's like the top

1992
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:05,360
tops and i mean that's hard but then you

1993
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:06,320
have like

1994
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:07,840
everyone trying to make it like it's

1995
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:20,229
yeah

1996
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:22,080
and for a long time too before now

1997
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:24,640
luckily ddp is saving everybody with his

1998
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:27,360
yoga but instead everybody would just be

1999
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,159
in pain and just [\h__\h] take pills

2000
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:32,080
yeah it's right it's

2001
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,590
screw the undertaker for being like you

2002
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,520
know back in my at one point recently

2003
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:41,120
and then i'm done with this tangent at

2004
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:42,560
one point recently the undertaker was

2005
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:44,800
just like you know back in my day um

2006
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,640
people after wrestling but we went we

2007
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:48,400
got drunk till four in the morning and

2008
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,560
got into bar fights we didn't uh you

2009
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:52,159
know play video games for a bunch of

2010
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:54,960
hours and it's like bro back in your day

2011
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:57,120
these dudes had like like would die

2012
01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:59,840
constantly and then it's still yeah

2013
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,760
but it's like there's the the people

2014
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:03,440
that ruined their lives

2015
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:05,679
doing [\h__\h] like that like and now these

2016
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,960
guys are trying to save their mental

2017
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:09,040
health but instead of going out to bars

2018
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:10,320
till four or five in the morning they're

2019
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,120
going on twitch the whole video yeah the

2020
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,679
whole point of generations

2021
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,679
the next is to make it easier and better

2022
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:19,040
for the generation for you i will speak

2023
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,159
so this is my one i'm gonna go to being

2024
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:22,080
a parent i have a young son

2025
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:24,000
all i think about now all i think about

2026
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:25,840
is like how can i

2027
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,960
nick westmeyer make something better

2028
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:31,520
for my soon-to-be five-year-old like you

2029
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,640
prepare him for the water wars of 2047

2030
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:36,320
of course you know well he's small like

2031
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:37,600
me so he'll like be able to like get in

2032
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:39,440
and out of stuff it's gonna be great

2033
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:41,440
but like seriously i hate that [\h__\h] like

2034
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,600
well when we were good great then people

2035
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:45,520
learned not to be as you know dumb as

2036
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:46,640
you

2037
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,159
i wish more people thought like that

2038
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:51,199
nick i really do i really really do um

2039
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:52,880
all right well let's i guess let's talk

2040
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:55,679
about the alien abduction slumber party

2041
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:01,030
nick is my favorite f-bomber spirit

2042
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:03,600
animal [\h__\h] right thanks anthony um

2043
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:05,520
and i'm gonna reset the room as we do

2044
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,520
here it's somewhere in the skies if

2045
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:09,360
you're just joining us i have andrew

2046
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:11,840
sanford nick westermeyer with us two of

2047
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,000
my best buds here in new york city both

2048
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:16,320
in the tv and film industry we're

2049
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:18,719
reviewing four found footage alien

2050
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,719
abduction movies if you want to help out

2051
01:17:23,990 --> 01:17:22,400
somewhere in the skies you can use the

2052
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,000
super chat we will highlight your

2053
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:26,880
comments or ask your questions to

2054
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,239
nick and andrew as well can you drop out

2055
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:31,920
somewhere in the skies ryan stills me

2056
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,040
whiskey for moving him into his

2057
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:35,520
apartment i owe you way more than just

2058
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:38,000
whiskey both of you both of you so yes

2059
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:39,840
please help the show out and in turn

2060
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:41,040
you'll be helping these two fine

2061
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:46,239
gentlemen as well um we are on 2013's

2062
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:48,080
slumber party alien abduction quick

2063
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:50,400
synopsis we're at a slumber party

2064
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,199
there's an alien abduction synopsis done

2065
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:55,440
um but the interesting thing about this

2066
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,480
found footage again but in a really

2067
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,679
interesting way um this isn't

2068
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:03,440
a 16 year old at a birthday party

2069
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:05,760
holding the camera um

2070
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:08,320
this is from the point of view of

2071
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:11,679
ostensibly a dog with a gopro camera on

2072
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:14,480
it so we got to give jason credit for i

2073
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:17,120
love a unique way of filming this thing

2074
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:19,040
initial thoughts guys go

2075
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,800
i really enjoyed it i had seen this one

2076
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:22,560
before and i had it's been a while since

2077
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:24,880
i've seen it i think since i saw it um i

2078
01:18:29,110 --> 01:18:27,920
think i must have saw it um

2079
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:29,120
right around the time it came out

2080
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:32,880
honestly or at least came to uh uh vod

2081
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:35,920
but i um i just really enjoy it i think

2082
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:37,360
there's a lot that's like really scary

2083
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:39,679
about it i do think it is clearly

2084
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,159
heavily inspired by the mcpherson tapes

2085
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:45,280
um i would be i like in a very good way

2086
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:48,719
it's almost it's almost like a an update

2087
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,080
in a way or i would call them like

2088
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,400
sister movies like they're very

2089
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:54,000
they have a very similar kind i think

2090
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,280
they're both trying to accomplish the

2091
01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:57,760
same thing except one had 60 minutes and

2092
01:19:01,669 --> 01:19:00,480
one had 14 um which is really impressive

2093
01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:01,679
with what they're able to get done in

2094
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:03,440
that amount of time um but yeah i think

2095
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:06,320
it's very inventive i would love to i i

2096
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:07,840
think as a filmmaker myself i was like

2097
01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:09,600
oh man how did they shoot

2098
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,000
in that sleeping bag when the kids in

2099
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:13,679
the water and like the dogs like that

2100
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:16,880
was i thought that was fantastic i

2101
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,640
thought that was really really cool just

2102
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:20,480
from even a technical standpoint i was

2103
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:23,040
like that's really cool let's let's give

2104
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:25,679
some set up for that um so we have the

2105
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:28,239
film no no setup no no go watch the

2106
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:32,709
welcome to somewhere the sky is hosted

2107
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,870
otherwise there's no sound there they

2108
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:52,320
were the piano

2109
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,600
all right

2110
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:55,040
we have um

2111
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:56,880
these kids are going to have a slumber

2112
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:59,120
party the parents go away for the night

2113
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:00,560
you know you've got the older they're

2114
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:04,560
very young parents not that that

2115
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:06,320
the mom especially i was like how old

2116
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:08,480
are you i was like i was like is she at

2117
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,679
first i thought she was the older [\h__\h]

2118
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:11,520
this has nothing to do with anything but

2119
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,719
i was just like because they're

2120
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:13,920
literally on screen for like five

2121
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:15,920
seconds but i was like

2122
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,159
we we got to know the parents are out so

2123
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:20,159
the kids are at play and yeah people it

2124
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,310
you're watching you're watching the

2125
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:29,520
opposite happen on the third screen

2126
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:33,440
stop it um but well okay i'm sorry these

2127
01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:35,440
kids why why are you sorry ryan these

2128
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:37,840
kids are terrible yeah yeah yeah they're

2129
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:40,880
pretty rough terrible so the first kind

2130
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:43,760
of like thing we get is um

2131
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:46,560
you know they live behind a lake and the

2132
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:47,600
older

2133
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:49,600
sister her boyfriend comes over

2134
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,880
obviously because the parents aren't

2135
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:53,199
around and they're like out on the dock

2136
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:55,600
the little kids are gonna mess with them

2137
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:57,760
get in the water start soaking them with

2138
01:21:02,709 --> 01:21:00,800
like super soakers super super pee

2139
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:02,719
with pee mind you and water balloons

2140
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,960
full of pee yeah and again like these

2141
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:06,480
kids are like

2142
01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:08,639
oh my god they're so that's that's prime

2143
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:10,639
level i was proud of i was proud of them

2144
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:12,000
yeah

2145
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,920
that boyfriend was a real real jerk

2146
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:17,520
well let's talk about it so the

2147
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,080
boyfriend he gets all pissed he jumps in

2148
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,159
the water to get one of these well

2149
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:24,560
no no let's start the boyfriend shows up

2150
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,280
drives over one of their costumes kicks

2151
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:30,159
their stereo like kicks it like just

2152
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,920
like the ghost stuff

2153
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:33,920
kicks their stereo i was like i was like

2154
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,679
this is i was

2155
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:38,159
and again you have 14 minutes

2156
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:40,080
so like you just

2157
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:42,239
just kicked that stereo thank you for

2158
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:44,639
that and look i i i i just got your

2159
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,639
twitter handle that handle is no longer

2160
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:48,320
accurate uh but if you follow that

2161
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:49,840
handle on twitter you'll see some

2162
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:52,159
occasionally funny stuff if you go there

2163
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,920
right now i posted a picture from this

2164
01:21:59,189 --> 01:21:55,360
live show

2165
01:22:04,550 --> 01:21:59,990
um

2166
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,560
obviously we've established that yes we

2167
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:06,239
have very well

2168
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,639
he jumps in the water to get the kid

2169
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:10,960
who's right now kind of filming the

2170
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:12,639
thing before they put the gopro on the

2171
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:15,840
dog and um that's where we get our first

2172
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:18,560
all of that sure i love that i love that

2173
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:21,760
first shot of the alien i love great oh

2174
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:31,110
what i love about some jump scares

2175
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,560
because i'm not a big jump scare person

2176
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:34,239
but what i like about that is it's a

2177
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:35,679
blink and you'll miss it kind of jump

2178
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,159
scare i don't remember that from the

2179
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,320
first time that i watched this

2180
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:42,960
um and i to see that happen i was like

2181
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:46,239
oh cool like i just thought that was

2182
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:48,320
really really strong real scary they

2183
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:52,960
look great yes they did looks so

2184
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,159
um the alien creatures in this were

2185
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:59,120
um very simple but also really scary but

2186
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,400
yeah so

2187
01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:02,400
what i thought was really interesting is

2188
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:04,880
the boy jumps in the water but then when

2189
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,000
the camera goes under it's an alien and

2190
01:23:12,310 --> 01:23:10,159
again it was the first jump scare and

2191
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:12,320
how he did that um

2192
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,440
it just it astounds me like uh just

2193
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:17,679
for the budget he had the time they shot

2194
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:19,040
this in a

2195
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:20,719
shot this thing in a week it's really

2196
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:22,000
impressive that's really really

2197
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:23,600
impressive and again like i've never

2198
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:25,679
seen an alien abduction movie starting

2199
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,639
in the water of all things sure yeah

2200
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:29,760
yeah yeah

2201
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,000
that's a good point um

2202
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,920
well what do we got next any of you guys

2203
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,520
want to go on to the whatever the next

2204
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,440
plot point was here what oh plot point

2205
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,840
well i mean then they

2206
01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:42,080
start i was just the thing i liked about

2207
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,440
i just watched this i watched this

2208
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:45,040
before we got on it was like the last

2209
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,320
thing i had to watch so i was like at my

2210
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:48,880
computer setting up right like

2211
01:23:55,430 --> 01:23:52,000
huddled to my wife and kid in here um

2212
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:55,440
and then but i have to say like i

2213
01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:57,760
short film short films for plays

2214
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,719
whatever

2215
01:24:02,390 --> 01:24:00,960
if you can do it well if you can tell us

2216
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:02,400
a synced story

2217
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,600
in [\h__\h] 13 minutes that engages me

2218
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,360
scares me a little bit i have to kudos

2219
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,400
to you because like that means you have

2220
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:10,719
to get all of your storytelling

2221
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,520
done

2222
01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:13,360
immediately there's no there's no fat

2223
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:15,199
right it's all got to be

2224
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,960
and i thought this did a

2225
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:19,199
pretty good job

2226
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:22,400
yeah like i i never lost i never was

2227
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:23,760
able to i never disengaged it didn't

2228
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:25,280
allow me to like disengage i thought

2229
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,560
that right

2230
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,320
the story again the storytelling in this

2231
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,719
was really good and with that first

2232
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:33,360
alien shower even some of the other ones

2233
01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:35,199
to me i i think i'll keep going back to

2234
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,320
this because

2235
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:38,000
to me when i watch these movies i it's

2236
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:40,480
what i like i was scared like you get

2237
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,320
just enough alien

2238
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,639
to make it really good but not so much

2239
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,040
that you start to like pick it apart um

2240
01:24:51,750 --> 01:24:48,960
i thought they did a great job it was

2241
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:51,760
great designs great creature work um

2242
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:54,239
and then like it was executed

2243
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:55,440
your visions of the creature were

2244
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,000
executed really well

2245
01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:00,480
nick didn't be shy jump in there

2246
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:01,760
um

2247
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,560
that's i think you're right like you

2248
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:08,239
have so much time to tell the story i

2249
01:25:11,189 --> 01:25:09,600
think he had a really good beginning

2250
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:11,199
middle and end um

2251
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:13,120
we'll get there but let's talk about the

2252
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:15,040
slumber party aspect

2253
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:15,920
so

2254
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:20,639
gonna bring up um

2255
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,719
we get the scene

2256
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:24,560
where the girlfriend and the older

2257
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:26,400
brother walk in

2258
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,800
on the kids in the living room right and

2259
01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:30,239
one of the kids

2260
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,520
is

2261
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,199
i'm just going to say it wasn't a

2262
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:35,440
slumber party

2263
01:25:39,910 --> 01:25:37,520
pounding off as they said pounding off

2264
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,920
as the kids say to a porn so i want to

2265
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,199
ask you guys

2266
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:43,679
is this a thing like no did you guys

2267
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,320
watch porns with your friends at slumber

2268
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:48,480
parties or anything like that like who

2269
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,719
knows that

2270
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,360
who are these kids what okay so i may

2271
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:55,520
have watched like late night hbo or

2272
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:57,679
cinemax with like my friends because

2273
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:59,360
they had it and you're like yo we need

2274
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:00,960
to watch somebody

2275
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:03,040
while we can yeah yeah but there was

2276
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:04,480
like there's

2277
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:07,520
that's about as far as that went well

2278
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,679
you really cut yourself off there um no

2279
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:11,040
i i am

2280
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,800
no because here's the thing has that

2281
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:14,800
happened to me personally not to my

2282
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:16,320
knowledge because i was usually one of

2283
01:26:19,030 --> 01:26:17,679
the first ones to sleep with these kind

2284
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:19,040
of things and

2285
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:20,719
if that's if i would go because i was

2286
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,560
also not a big celebrity person growing

2287
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:24,639
up i didn't i still don't like sleeping

2288
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:27,280
in not my own place

2289
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:28,800
um

2290
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:31,840
that being said let us remember

2291
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,199
that 13 year olds 13 14 year olds are

2292
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:36,960
disgusting

2293
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:38,080
right

2294
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,719
their young teenagers are gross and

2295
01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:45,440
especially but like boys that age

2296
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:52,950
like i'm already nervous i've had to

2297
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,520
warn my wife i have two little boys and

2298
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:57,840
at some point there'll be um if your

2299
01:27:01,830 --> 01:27:00,239
friends had a pet what look yes look

2300
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:01,840
watching porn together is a weird thing

2301
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:04,400
that young young young boys do because

2302
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,199
you just

2303
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,800
it's just it is a thing that like

2304
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:08,480
because that and then it's just it's

2305
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,199
just awkward it's just awkward

2306
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:13,920
but no but i yeah i don't i this to me

2307
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:17,040
was the least far-fetched thing yeah

2308
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,280
okay the entire thing i just i had to

2309
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,120
get your guy's opinion on that i just

2310
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,040
really i was like of course look he's in

2311
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:25,199
a sleeping bag it's not like it's going

2312
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:26,560
anywhere

2313
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,520
right

2314
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:29,600
he's shielded

2315
01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:31,440
good point look come on where's it gonna

2316
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,199
go where's it gonna go

2317
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:35,199
into the sleeping bag with him that's

2318
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,320
his mess

2319
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:37,760
all right

2320
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:39,040
listen

2321
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,920
toddler to like kid boys are also

2322
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,159
equally [\h__\h] disgusting oh sure look

2323
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,960
boys are gross these are disgusting and

2324
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:48,480
i love mine you're not going to tell any

2325
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,880
of us yeah yeah i picked up my kids

2326
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:52,480
mattress to change the sheets and

2327
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:54,159
underneath i just saw goldfish and

2328
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:55,600
[\h__\h] cheerios

2329
01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:58,159
for days

2330
01:28:01,669 --> 01:28:00,000
where what how and then i opened up the

2331
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:01,679
couch i'm like oh and you did not throw

2332
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:03,040
that out correct

2333
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,199
you respected you respected his stash

2334
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:07,280
yeah

2335
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:09,199
not a real goldfish right i just want to

2336
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:11,199
make no no like the

2337
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:13,280
very underrated snack

2338
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:16,320
that is fantastic i like i like goldfish

2339
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,239
joy's a big goldfish person my problem

2340
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:20,080
with goldfish i'll eat too many they're

2341
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:21,520
not heavy enough

2342
01:28:24,629 --> 01:28:23,280
yeah like what i like about cheese it's

2343
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,639
cheese's let me know when i'm done

2344
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:25,920
eating cheeses

2345
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:28,400
goldfish i'll eat that entire bag

2346
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:29,840
without even thinking twice about that

2347
01:28:32,629 --> 01:28:30,639
too

2348
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,639
and then quality content here guys

2349
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:34,480
that's somewhere in the sky yeah yeah

2350
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:38,480
you hear this with smack talk that was

2351
01:28:57,910 --> 01:28:56,709
let's get back on track yeah so

2352
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:57,920
the boy's body i think we've been

2353
01:29:01,790 --> 01:28:59,760
perfectly on track at the movie that got

2354
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,800
us talking about masturbation

2355
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:03,600
[Music]

2356
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:05,840
we're doing service more confusion i

2357
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,159
have five kids girls there we go we got

2358
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:11,040
the women's perspective i love that

2359
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:12,800
appreciate it

2360
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,600
so okay so that scene happens whatever

2361
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,360
and now they're all kind of in the same

2362
01:29:22,229 --> 01:29:19,360
room and this is when things really

2363
01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:22,239
start to get amped up we get like

2364
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:24,160
crazy

2365
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,669
because you got so much time you gotta

2366
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:31,280
get that [\h__\h] moving you gotta get it in

2367
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:33,360
now and then the boyfriend just has a

2368
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,560
shotgun

2369
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:36,000
yeah

2370
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:38,000
an easily accessible shotgun that the

2371
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:39,360
person who doesn't live there knows

2372
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:40,800
where it is again this is not a

2373
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:43,920
criticism this is not um uh

2374
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:45,920
everything wrong with sleeping whatever

2375
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:48,560
those stupid videos are um that's not a

2376
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,840
criticism it's just funny it

2377
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,080
jason if you're watching this yeah yeah

2378
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:56,880
and it's not even nitpick because it

2379
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,800
it brought me a sense of joy it brought

2380
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,320
me it made me happy that he just

2381
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:02,159
suddenly had a shotgun i was like oh

2382
01:30:05,590 --> 01:30:04,239
[\h__\h] like that and he seemed like that

2383
01:30:07,510 --> 01:30:05,600
kind of character it's just like where'd

2384
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:07,520
he get that shotgun it doesn't matter

2385
01:30:13,350 --> 01:30:09,520
it's just a fun thing to think about

2386
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:13,360
right so okay so this is when it goes

2387
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:14,880
and he gets got

2388
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:18,159
he gets got zero to 80. we go zero to

2389
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,280
180

2390
01:30:24,390 --> 01:30:22,080
immediately there's no like there's no

2391
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,400
subtlety of aliens coming in or weird

2392
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:26,639
paranormal stuff like these aliens

2393
01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:30,400
[\h__\h] bust through like psychopaths

2394
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:31,600
and just

2395
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,120
zip these kids up in their sleeping bags

2396
01:30:41,030 --> 01:30:37,760
and drag them the hell out of them yeah

2397
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:41,040
that was so jolting to me yes ryan i

2398
01:30:43,830 --> 01:30:42,480
have a question for it i have a question

2399
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:43,840
yeah yeah

2400
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:45,520
this might seem like a tangent but i do

2401
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:47,440
not intend it to be one

2402
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:49,360
in the same way

2403
01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:52,880
that peta may get upset if a movie like

2404
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:54,880
shows the harming of animals or anything

2405
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:57,840
like that right are there people and

2406
01:31:02,950 --> 01:30:59,679
this is a sincere question are there

2407
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:02,960
people in the ufo community that get

2408
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:05,760
upset when aliens are portrayed as

2409
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:10,080
hostile oh 100 yeah yes that is a big

2410
01:31:14,950 --> 01:31:13,120
conflict within the ufo community is a

2411
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:14,960
lot of them believe aliens are

2412
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:16,880
benevolent and they're here to help us

2413
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:18,880
and love and light um you've got that

2414
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:21,040
whole aspect of it but you do have those

2415
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:22,560
who have claimed very

2416
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:26,400
traumatic evasive um intrusive things

2417
01:31:30,550 --> 01:31:28,480
and um look if we're talking about font

2418
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:30,560
footage and alien abduction obviously

2419
01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:33,120
they're going to go the molecular world

2420
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:34,880
usually the scarier

2421
01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:37,440
so um but yes that is a big um issue

2422
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:38,800
that i think a lot of

2423
01:31:44,390 --> 01:31:41,520
uh claimed experiencers have with these

2424
01:31:46,550 --> 01:31:44,400
types of movies or the way um aliens are

2425
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:46,560
portrayed or how the quote-unquote

2426
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,880
victims are betrayed you know a lot of

2427
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:51,120
these people who have these experiences

2428
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,800
they do everything they can to fight

2429
01:31:57,669 --> 01:31:54,719
back or um you know they don't see

2430
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:57,679
themselves as victims and then on tv

2431
01:32:02,310 --> 01:31:59,840
like we'll talk about a movie later on

2432
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:02,320
that really takes that to the next level

2433
01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:04,880
um but yeah that that's a great question

2434
01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:06,639
actually and um

2435
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:07,760
kind of see it play out because

2436
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:09,199
especially in this one i'm just like

2437
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:11,040
it's straight up

2438
01:32:15,669 --> 01:32:13,600
like it even looks like i like help me

2439
01:32:17,430 --> 01:32:15,679
out here are they biting that girl at

2440
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:17,440
the end when they look like they were

2441
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:18,480
taking it

2442
01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:19,840
yeah it looked like he was trying to eat

2443
01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:21,760
her and i was like oh [\h__\h] like that

2444
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:23,280
kind of that got me because i was like i

2445
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:25,520
don't think i've seen that before that

2446
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:27,920
let's talk about that scene um i think

2447
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:30,400
nick you brought it up um

2448
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:33,440
the dragging them out and into the water

2449
01:32:39,990 --> 01:32:36,000
again this is not something you see

2450
01:32:41,750 --> 01:32:40,000
in usually alien abduction lore yeah

2451
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:41,760
aliens coming out of the water and then

2452
01:32:46,709 --> 01:32:44,480
bringing their abductors back into the

2453
01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:46,719
water and all you see

2454
01:32:50,229 --> 01:32:48,320
is the kid in the sleeping bag and then

2455
01:32:52,229 --> 01:32:50,239
it starts to fill with water and that

2456
01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:52,239
took me a minute to be like what what is

2457
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,840
happening here and then i realized i'm

2458
01:32:58,310 --> 01:32:55,920
like holy [\h__\h] he brought him into the

2459
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:58,320
lake and like it blew my mind i'd never

2460
01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:00,560
seen anything like that before

2461
01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:02,320
they're almost to me they're almost some

2462
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:04,560
with the almost predators in this movie

2463
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:06,480
so yes when i when i watch these so

2464
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:07,840
whenever i watch like an abduction movie

2465
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:09,120
and i always think about this i'm like

2466
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:10,960
okay so if things are coming out whether

2467
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,719
it's peaceful or whatever side you're

2468
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,320
going on it like i try to think about

2469
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:16,400
like an animal right so like what we do

2470
01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:19,199
like people we're like oh let's go check

2471
01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:21,120
out this wild animal and then we we come

2472
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:23,760
in a truck or a plane and we [\h__\h]

2473
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:25,920
shoot them with a goddamn dart and then

2474
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:28,000
we like do [\h__\h] to them and sometimes

2475
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:29,280
they're not like listen i've watched a

2476
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:32,560
lot of dr oakley on disney pops um and a

2477
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:34,400
lot of times you're like that animal's

2478
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,080
not fully asleep we don't think it's

2479
01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:38,159
feeling pain i was like oh

2480
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:39,920
that clocks right that fear of something

2481
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:42,239
that's unknown that's doing something

2482
01:33:46,310 --> 01:33:44,400
right it because if you're just an

2483
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:46,320
animal essentially to these things that

2484
01:33:49,669 --> 01:33:47,520
are even if they're not doing it in a

2485
01:33:51,270 --> 01:33:49,679
malicious way

2486
01:33:52,709 --> 01:33:51,280
it could still kind of be [\h__\h]

2487
01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:52,719
malicious we don't think we're malicious

2488
01:33:56,229 --> 01:33:53,760
all the time

2489
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:56,239
and so what i liked about this

2490
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,840
dovetailing off that is the first time

2491
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,719
that

2492
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:00,719
it's it viewed it seemed to me like they

2493
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,040
were predators like it is a is a

2494
01:34:08,229 --> 01:34:05,440
predation of the people

2495
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:08,239
at this party which is different than

2496
01:34:13,350 --> 01:34:11,679
the abduction to me that we'll get to in

2497
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:13,360
the the other the other objection we're

2498
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:15,360
like no like the bite the dragging into

2499
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,040
the water to the be that's hunting it's

2500
01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:19,120
literally hunting and then

2501
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:20,719
they're watching and then it's an attack

2502
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:22,080
right then it's like once you say like

2503
01:34:24,790 --> 01:34:23,440
once it snaps

2504
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,800
then it's an attack and that's what

2505
01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:26,639
feels so like visceral about this film

2506
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:27,840
in a way that

2507
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:29,120
other ones

2508
01:34:31,669 --> 01:34:30,320
did not because you don't know when

2509
01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:31,679
mcpherson say what's going to happen

2510
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:33,760
with those aliens you don't that's it's

2511
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,920
left-wing this one like

2512
01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:37,199
they're coming out

2513
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:39,679
in a hyper-aggressive way it is in your

2514
01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:42,320
face yeah yeah oh predator is a perfect

2515
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:44,560
word nick i feel like like this is the

2516
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:46,960
one that really stuck out to me is like

2517
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:49,679
if this is how an alien race would treat

2518
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:50,880
us um

2519
01:34:56,470 --> 01:34:51,760
like

2520
01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:56,480
don't want to be put through that to be

2521
01:35:01,990 --> 01:34:58,880
completely honest like like once they

2522
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:02,000
drag them in to their craft or whatever

2523
01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:03,520
if that's what they did to them before

2524
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:05,040
they even get them on the ship i don't

2525
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:07,199
want to know what comes next like are

2526
01:35:11,109 --> 01:35:09,679
they gonna like a little 13 year old boy

2527
01:35:12,149 --> 01:35:11,119
are they gonna start picking the legs

2528
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:12,159
off of a

2529
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,600
uh a spider or like what what comes next

2530
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:17,440
i don't want to know that's what really

2531
01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:18,960
got me about the next one that we're

2532
01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:20,080
gonna talk about okay

2533
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:24,239
okay um well let's i guess um we gotta

2534
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:32,629
dog and so we are literally seeing most

2535
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:34,400
of this from the dog's kind of

2536
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:37,119
perspective and um the older daughters

2537
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:38,960
kind of right that starts at the

2538
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:41,520
masturbation scene yes where they put it

2539
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:42,960
on i just wanted to bring that up isn't

2540
01:35:46,629 --> 01:35:44,960
it on the dog for like a hot second

2541
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:46,639
earlier too like them messing around i

2542
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:48,400
think so they were kind of messed up it

2543
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:49,520
was a little

2544
01:35:53,030 --> 01:35:51,520
like just establish it yeah yeah yeah

2545
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,040
yeah um

2546
01:35:57,910 --> 01:35:55,440
so oh and i do want to bring this up

2547
01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:57,920
that so they drag one of the boys in the

2548
01:36:03,830 --> 01:36:00,560
water and he essentially drowns like he

2549
01:36:06,470 --> 01:36:03,840
he goes code blue man and the they drag

2550
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:06,480
him out on the dock the the older sister

2551
01:36:11,189 --> 01:36:09,040
is giving him cpr yeah and this is the

2552
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:11,199
scene that really got me you see at the

2553
01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:13,360
end of the dock you know lights are

2554
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:15,520
going um we're catching glimpses of

2555
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,040
something in the distance obviously it's

2556
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:19,280
one of these aliens and as she's giving

2557
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:22,960
cpr you see the alien getting closer and

2558
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:26,000
it was so intense i had to stop it and

2559
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,080
like catch my breath because not only do

2560
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:30,960
you have an alien doing the

2561
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,360
prototypical getting closer thing you

2562
01:36:37,669 --> 01:36:35,600
have a sister trying to save her

2563
01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:37,679
brother's life it was just like layers

2564
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:40,639
upon layers of just intensity that i

2565
01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:43,440
personally couldn't handle i get really

2566
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,080
affected physically by horror movies i

2567
01:36:51,669 --> 01:36:48,480
have a really tough time but that scene

2568
01:36:54,390 --> 01:36:51,679
man i gave jason kudos like talk about

2569
01:36:56,470 --> 01:36:54,400
layering something it just really that

2570
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:56,480
scene alone really and the idea of

2571
01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:58,480
predator and stalking right like that's

2572
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:59,840
what i think the other hormone like

2573
01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:01,040
that's what it doesn't love like that

2574
01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,480
first halloween movie so much because

2575
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:04,320
that whole movie is just him [\h__\h]

2576
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:06,480
stalking people before anything happens

2577
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:08,080
and that that idea of like something

2578
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:10,320
that's coming after you again that you

2579
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,320
can't stop and you don't understand and

2580
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:15,360
is is otherworldly um the other thing

2581
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:16,880
about this film just make sure i don't

2582
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:20,159
cross them the police lights

2583
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:21,040
yeah

2584
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:22,880
where like again the tricking like

2585
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:24,400
basically like oh my god it's safe but

2586
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:27,920
it's trickery it's a whole idea of like

2587
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:30,320
really elevating this to like

2588
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:31,679
you know

2589
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:32,639
monster is the wrong word because i

2590
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,080
always feel like monsters are mindless

2591
01:37:38,950 --> 01:37:36,400
in a sense and this is not that but like

2592
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,960
again like things being imp being

2593
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:40,800
implemented to

2594
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:42,880
lure this this group into whatever was

2595
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,159
going to happen i thought that was

2596
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:46,320
[\h__\h] brilliant i'm like oh smart

2597
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:48,480
because if you're a higher being right

2598
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:50,719
like what can you implement either for

2599
01:37:56,070 --> 01:37:53,360
just shits and [\h__\h] giggles

2600
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,080
or to like to trick them more so don't

2601
01:37:59,669 --> 01:37:58,480
escape right that was such a good moment

2602
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,679
i was like that's

2603
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:01,280
really crazy so

2604
01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:04,480
in the ufo lore um there's a gentleman

2605
01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,320
named jacques valet who

2606
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:08,719
looks at all of this as a very

2607
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:10,880
cultural thing a very psychological

2608
01:38:14,709 --> 01:38:13,760
thing and his idea is that a lot of

2609
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:14,719
these

2610
01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:18,000
uh advanced alien races if they are real

2611
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:19,360
um

2612
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:21,600
they are trickster-ish in nature they

2613
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:24,080
have kind of that that that sense to

2614
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:27,040
them this old old idea of like

2615
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:28,000
um

2616
01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:30,400
yesterday's fairies are today's aliens

2617
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:32,800
and they will trick you and deceive you

2618
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:35,199
to get what what they need and we do see

2619
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:36,880
that play out in some of these movies

2620
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,440
and especially with this idea of screen

2621
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,000
memory you know they're able to

2622
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:44,400
show themselves as something different

2623
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:45,280
um

2624
01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:47,520
uh to get what they want like we'll talk

2625
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:50,320
about that later with owls yes yep thank

2626
01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:52,719
you but in this one you're right nick

2627
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,400
like you think you're safe the police

2628
01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:57,040
showed up no it's like the uf it's the

2629
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:58,880
lights from the ufo is what i presume

2630
01:39:01,270 --> 01:39:00,000
right

2631
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:01,280
and then the alien walks out and you're

2632
01:39:05,030 --> 01:39:03,119
like oh [\h__\h]

2633
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:05,040
like you're like god damn it

2634
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:06,880
yeah oh this is my favorite moment

2635
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,760
horror movies you're like ah

2636
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:11,520
sound too i want to talk to you guys i

2637
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:13,760
listen to this with stereo headphones

2638
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:16,719
if you listen to this like top volume

2639
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:19,760
like the way jason used um sound in this

2640
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:20,800
was just

2641
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:23,040
oh you've got like this

2642
01:39:27,990 --> 01:39:25,920
metal dragging of metal screeching sound

2643
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:28,000
going on when the creatures are around

2644
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,760
you've got kind of that um

2645
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:31,360
almost predator

2646
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:33,600
um the actual movie predator that like

2647
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:35,280
welcome

2648
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,560
i can't do it like that no no no no go

2649
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:37,920
ahead go ahead

2650
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:46,790
look at that crushing it oh my god

2651
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:48,390
super chat is open for anyone who wants

2652
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,320
me to keep doing the predator side

2653
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:52,239
somewhere in the skies matthew what's up

2654
01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:55,440
buddy rowan's here um just saying hi to

2655
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:57,840
some people thank you

2656
01:40:01,109 --> 01:39:59,199
um

2657
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:01,119
oh yeah i already got that one andrew

2658
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:03,119
nick i gotta thank you guys we're good

2659
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,880
we're almost on an hour 40. we've been

2660
01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:06,800
through two films you guys are troopers

2661
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:08,719
we'll get there i promise we will get

2662
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:10,320
there um

2663
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,239
so let's play i mean let's just go to

2664
01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:14,239
the end um

2665
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:16,480
we get uh everyone's getting picked off

2666
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:19,840
one by one sort of and then oh man you

2667
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:22,480
literally see the last boy who's got

2668
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:23,840
like the dog

2669
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:26,880
gets sucked up which was crazy i thought

2670
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:28,880
that was i thought that looked real rad

2671
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:30,639
i thought that was awesome so good real

2672
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:32,880
real good even if we had to watch that

2673
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,239
dog

2674
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:36,560
like okay

2675
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:38,000
do you guys think the dog died at the

2676
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,679
end i mean i know he was

2677
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:41,520
like bloodied and he was crying

2678
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,920
everyone's [\h__\h] up a part of me is

2679
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,400
like i want to think they just were like

2680
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:49,440
just leave it and it somehow goes on to

2681
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:52,560
tell its story to the dog kind not only

2682
01:40:58,629 --> 01:40:55,840
does that dog die we watch the last bits

2683
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:58,639
of its life and out of its body as it

2684
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,679
happens

2685
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:01,760
it hits the ground and we hear a few

2686
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:04,080
whippers and then it goes cold that's

2687
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:05,600
the [\h__\h] up part it's not even that

2688
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:07,920
they killed the dog it's that the the

2689
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:10,239
fall didn't kill him right away

2690
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,480
we had to watch the rest of it happen i

2691
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:14,800
hate when animals die in movies i don't

2692
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:16,880
give a [\h__\h] really but i just i just

2693
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:20,000
thought that was that dog's fine

2694
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:22,239
that does the real version of that dog

2695
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:24,000
it might be dead in real life maybe by

2696
01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,760
natural causes

2697
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:27,840
ryan don't worry that dog did not die it

2698
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:29,040
definitely

2699
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,119
didn't feel anything because you know

2700
01:41:35,430 --> 01:41:33,199
it's fine you're okay it's fine it's in

2701
01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:35,440
dog heaven isn't that a movie there is

2702
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,280
no dog heaven they all go to hell and

2703
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,360
that is and look i love dogs but they

2704
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:41,440
just that's what that's what happens

2705
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,000
evil no can't stop won't stop dunwell

2706
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:46,480
says we will not stop it's dog health

2707
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:53,590
yeah yeah no everybody everything turns

2708
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:56,960
to sour cream in their mouths

2709
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:59,040
you just made my stomach turn if you

2710
01:42:02,390 --> 01:42:00,719
have a beagle like i do they'll they're

2711
01:42:05,030 --> 01:42:02,400
like you know what is this food do i get

2712
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:05,040
food don't care

2713
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:07,280
deborah said uh john wick moment yeah

2714
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:09,280
that was the impetus for john wick i

2715
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,880
can't watch john wick because i have a

2716
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,239
beagle and i know what happens to that

2717
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:14,639
[\h__\h] beagle in that movie no

2718
01:42:18,149 --> 01:42:16,320
i have never seen the john wick movies

2719
01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:18,159
not yet oh they're fun

2720
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,480
well let's um i have a clip from jason

2721
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:22,560
so we'll play that in just a moment here

2722
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:23,840
but um

2723
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:25,440
this one did have a review on rotten

2724
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:27,119
tomatoes 71

2725
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,159
by the critics 51 by the audience so not

2726
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:32,560
too bad not too much no wait is that for

2727
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:33,840
just the segment or is that for the

2728
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:36,159
whole movie that is for the whole movie

2729
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,000
good thing i didn't think about it

2730
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:40,000
that's a collective rating yeah that's

2731
01:42:43,350 --> 01:42:41,040
for everything

2732
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:43,360
so what do you guys give uh what do you

2733
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:46,000
give slumber party alien abduction i'm

2734
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,639
gonna go with a nine out of ten nice

2735
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:50,800
i very much enjoy it i very much enjoyed

2736
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:53,440
it i'm only giving it a nine out of ten

2737
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:54,960
because

2738
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:57,440
i think i i think and maybe jason would

2739
01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:00,000
agree maybe it's uh [\h__\h] no 10 out of

2740
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:01,760
10 10 out of 10. i thought this is

2741
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:04,719
really good i think that and i am

2742
01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:07,840
because i i i don't see why not like and

2743
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,239
it's also i think there's a lot of this

2744
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:12,159
that really works and i do see it as

2745
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:14,480
like i said a sister film to the

2746
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:17,440
mcpherson tape in a very positive way um

2747
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:19,600
i think they were able to nail some of

2748
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:22,560
the like what mcpherson tape does for

2749
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,560
like a family outing i think this does

2750
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:27,119
very well for a sibling rivalry um from

2751
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,719
those kids really i thought all the kids

2752
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:30,080
relationships to each other made a lot

2753
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:31,360
of sense and i thought those kids were

2754
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:33,280
very natural everybody felt good in it

2755
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:35,280
there were no ambi and it was just a lot

2756
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,960
more polished you know it's they had a

2757
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,040
week of shooting and they had it like

2758
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,960
there's and it may not seem like a lot

2759
01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:42,400
but compared how long did it take him to

2760
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:44,320
shoot the mcpherson tape

2761
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,880
uh i think two weeks tops two weeks okay

2762
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,400
either way either way with a very

2763
01:43:52,470 --> 01:43:50,080
limited like that's it it's a different

2764
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:52,480
kind of a thing mccarson tape first this

2765
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,000
and i think this would almost be like an

2766
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:56,480
updated version and i think that they do

2767
01:44:00,629 --> 01:43:58,960
i i watched them i watched the mcpherson

2768
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:00,639
tape and then i watched this immediately

2769
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:02,560
afterwards um this afternoon and it was

2770
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:04,000
a great

2771
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:07,840
seeing the origin and seeing the origin

2772
01:44:10,950 --> 01:44:09,280
and then seeing how far it's come so i'm

2773
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:10,960
just gonna say ten out of ten i really

2774
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,800
thoroughly enjoyed it

2775
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:14,719
nick i think bud

2776
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:15,920
yeah you know what's gonna say now on

2777
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:17,199
tim but i'm gonna go with andrew i'm

2778
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,280
gonna go 10 out of 10 just because i

2779
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,040
think telling short i think telling

2780
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:22,960
short stories is hard just in general i

2781
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:24,159
think it's a hard [\h__\h] thing to do

2782
01:44:28,149 --> 01:44:25,760
and i think that they did this

2783
01:44:29,109 --> 01:44:28,159
really well and i was

2784
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:29,119
i was

2785
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,880
like uncomfortably like scared and i

2786
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:36,320
thought that that was

2787
01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,600
really well done

2788
01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:39,360
and then eileen stuff doesn't usually

2789
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:41,679
scare me because what

2790
01:44:45,669 --> 01:44:43,360
what scares me they don't tend to do

2791
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:45,679
what to talk about the last and

2792
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:47,760
the last one i'll talk about that okay

2793
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:48,800
but that was good ryan you have a

2794
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:52,159
question down there but i saw that from

2795
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,080
anthony with another super chat thanks

2796
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:56,800
bud um decapitating you there nick sorry

2797
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,520
buddy anthony says ryan and your nick

2798
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,199
i'm getting ready to go down a dark hole

2799
01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:02,800
i have a question to pose dealing with a

2800
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:05,199
real life circumstance is this possible

2801
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:08,239
this is a real life circumstance yes or

2802
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:10,400
no i don't know if he means

2803
01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:14,560
slumber party specifically um anthony um

2804
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:17,199
if you could buddy please elaborate on

2805
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:19,199
that what you mean by that um do you

2806
01:45:23,109 --> 01:45:20,239
think

2807
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:23,119
that this scenario in this uh what we're

2808
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:24,560
talking about now

2809
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:26,159
is real life um let me know what you

2810
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:27,679
mean in the comments my man and we'll

2811
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:31,119
get back to that um but i'm gonna give

2812
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:34,480
this one i think as well a nine out of

2813
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:37,199
ten in my only problem is killing the

2814
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:39,520
dog that's my only problem i thought

2815
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:40,800
this was

2816
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:48,000
seen um it was slick it was scary it hit

2817
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:49,040
all the

2818
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:51,600
like the essentials of alien abduction

2819
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,880
and um

2820
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,280
i just loved it and i hated the kids so

2821
01:46:00,070 --> 01:45:57,280
much that the brutality they went

2822
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:00,080
through i actually really enjoyed i

2823
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:06,149
but that dog

2824
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:07,920
breaks my heart so that's my only

2825
01:46:12,070 --> 01:46:10,400
criticism of the film honestly but it's

2826
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:12,080
bleak that's like you gotta listen if

2827
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:13,520
you're going scorch earth go scorched

2828
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,880
earth yeah good point good point um well

2829
01:46:20,470 --> 01:46:19,199
awesome um anthony elaborate on that in

2830
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:20,480
the chat buddy and i'm gonna go ahead

2831
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:22,239
and play this clip from jason if you

2832
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:24,159
guys don't mind um take a little

2833
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:26,960
breather and um enjoy this clip by the

2834
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:29,440
writer and director of slumber party

2835
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:35,189
jason man thank you so much for taking

2836
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:36,960
time out of your day today i know you're

2837
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,199
a busy dude but um thank you for coming

2838
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,600
on someone's guys to talk to us today oh

2839
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:43,760
thank you so much i'm excited to be here

2840
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:46,320
yeah and as much as i want to talk about

2841
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,520
dark side of the ring the huge craze on

2842
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:51,760
vice right now and in the wrestling

2843
01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:54,960
world you're here to talk about ufos and

2844
01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:57,760
alien abductions man so i hope this is a

2845
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,320
little uh a good trip down memory lane

2846
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:02,080
for you definitely

2847
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,800
it's been like almost like gosh like

2848
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:06,880
10 years i think since we made the short

2849
01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:10,800
film and uh it's uh that that short is

2850
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:12,159
there's a lot of

2851
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:14,880
me and my childhood within it not only

2852
01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:16,960
just like the crazy antics that me and

2853
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:19,040
my friends got up to when we were kids

2854
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:22,080
but my fear of aliens growing up you

2855
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:24,800
know i was a kid that like as early as

2856
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:26,400
the fifth grade

2857
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:27,440
i

2858
01:48:02,950 --> 01:48:00,719
was

2859
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:02,960
probably too young to watch the movie

2860
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,440
just seeing the trailer on tv

2861
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,239
like i could you know go to the library

2862
01:48:12,550 --> 01:48:10,080
at school and even at my elementary

2863
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:12,560
school they had like books about ufos

2864
01:48:16,550 --> 01:48:14,320
and stuff and so

2865
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,560
i was kind of you know without my

2866
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:18,560
parents looking like i was like diving

2867
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:20,960
into that stuff and getting way too

2868
01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:23,199
scared and my imagination running with

2869
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,639
it but it all

2870
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:27,600
like came together for that short for

2871
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:31,440
that short film as a kid too i um

2872
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,400
i was like in my youth i experienced a

2873
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:36,880
lot of like sleep paralysis moments

2874
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:39,520
where um i would see like

2875
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,880
you know at night

2876
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:42,639
like sleep paralysis is like you're kind

2877
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:45,760
of like stuck between dreaming and being

2878
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:48,320
in the you know in the real world

2879
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:49,920
and i was having these moments where i'd

2880
01:48:53,669 --> 01:48:51,840
be like i'd wake up frozen in my bed and

2881
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:53,679
these like dark figures would come into

2882
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:56,320
my room and surround my bed but i had no

2883
01:48:59,910 --> 01:48:58,000
there was no internet or anything back

2884
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:59,920
then and i talked to my parents about it

2885
01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:01,600
and they would just take me to the

2886
01:49:06,149 --> 01:49:03,840
doctors and you know

2887
01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:06,159
there was no ever like explanation as to

2888
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:08,639
like why i was you know experiencing

2889
01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:11,040
these things and you know to me i almost

2890
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:13,119
thought like oh no like am i

2891
01:49:16,870 --> 01:49:15,280
experiencing like alien abductions of

2892
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:16,880
some kind or

2893
01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:18,639
i didn't know how to process it how long

2894
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:20,880
did it take what was the process like it

2895
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:23,840
was filming yeah it was only i think we

2896
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:27,119
had four days to shoot it um yeah and

2897
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:28,960
then it was you know it all took place

2898
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:32,400
at my my parents home and the dog in it

2899
01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:36,080
is our it was our family dog at the time

2900
01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:39,040
i like uh i was really at the time like

2901
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,360
also inspired by um

2902
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:43,520
like ride films like i don't know if you

2903
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:45,599
ever went to like uh universal studios

2904
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:47,199
and went on the back to the future right

2905
01:49:50,870 --> 01:49:49,440
oh right right yeah yeah where it's like

2906
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:50,880
it's a movie

2907
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:53,199
but like you're going through this

2908
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:55,679
experience that's like a ride and

2909
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:58,560
uh stuart gordon who was an incredible

2910
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:00,000
director

2911
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:02,719
did from beyond and reanimator

2912
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:06,320
he made one of these ride films um for

2913
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:08,000
the movie aliens

2914
01:50:13,430 --> 01:50:11,840
uh for um some theme parks and it's cool

2915
01:50:15,750 --> 01:50:13,440
because it's like all from the point of

2916
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:15,760
view of that you know the tank and

2917
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:17,119
aliens that

2918
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:19,119
sigourney weaver and the marines drive

2919
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:21,920
into the into that uh colony

2920
01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,320
and it's like it's just all pov and

2921
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:26,320
taking you through and this thing was

2922
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,400
terrifying um how did you come up with

2923
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:30,400
your creature design what was that

2924
01:50:34,149 --> 01:50:32,320
creative process like

2925
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:34,159
yeah it was pretty simple because it

2926
01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:35,679
just was

2927
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:38,880
the version of you know of all this the

2928
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,840
sketches i've seen from you know

2929
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:43,040
people who

2930
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,719
said they've experienced encounters with

2931
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:47,119
aliens and you know the gray alien has

2932
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:48,239
always been

2933
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,520
like scary to me even though it's like a

2934
01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:54,000
it's a bipedal figure that's standing on

2935
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:56,400
two feet but it's almost human-like and

2936
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,760
there was like i don't know maybe as a

2937
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:59,280
kid there was just a part of me that was

2938
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:01,520
like there was something scary about

2939
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,159
the idea that aliens it might look like

2940
01:51:09,589 --> 01:51:07,040
dark figures you know the shapes of the

2941
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:09,599
very human-like you know but the

2942
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:11,520
with the aliens it's like they're

2943
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:13,360
human-like you know but if you got a

2944
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,599
little closer you see that like oh their

2945
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,760
fingers are longer and like

2946
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:20,000
their heads are you know a little bigger

2947
01:51:23,750 --> 01:51:21,199
and like

2948
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,760
um so it was mostly just being inspired

2949
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:26,000
by the classic sort of gray alien it's

2950
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:28,000
been fun i love the chance to be able to

2951
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:31,440
talk about uh that short because

2952
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:33,679
it means a lot to me and i'm very proud

2953
01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:35,199
of it and uh

2954
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:38,239
i love hearing when like people who

2955
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:40,000
um who are also like me and were

2956
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:41,760
interested in this stuff like growing up

2957
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:43,840
and had fears of it that when they see

2958
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:45,360
the short they really connect with it

2959
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:47,119
because it like kind of

2960
01:51:49,430 --> 01:51:48,639
it like uh

2961
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:49,440
it

2962
01:51:53,189 --> 01:51:51,920
kind of shows the same fears in a way

2963
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:53,199
that you know

2964
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,440
that they had as well too and so

2965
01:51:58,870 --> 01:51:57,360
i i i every once in a while i'll see

2966
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:58,880
someone like write a twitter post or

2967
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:01,520
something about it man this was so scary

2968
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,880
the way they portrayed aliens in it like

2969
01:52:07,589 --> 01:52:05,840
you know

2970
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:07,599
people just give props to like how he

2971
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:10,719
did that and i i think that's cool

2972
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:13,360
absolutely man you have forever cemented

2973
01:52:17,830 --> 01:52:15,920
your legacy and found footage filming i

2974
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,840
loved it dude so i want to thank you for

2975
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:19,599
coming on somewhere in the skies today

2976
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,840
let's do it again and we will we will

2977
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:23,840
get deep into dark side of the ring but

2978
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,080
uh get back to work can't wait to see

2979
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:28,320
what you come up with next awesome thank

2980
01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:35,189
all right so that was

2981
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:37,119
the man jason eisner giving us some of

2982
01:52:42,629 --> 01:52:39,599
his time he was literally on set for

2983
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,639
dark side of the ring um waiting

2984
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:44,719
he he gave us he gave me his whole lunch

2985
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,520
break to talk about slumber party alien

2986
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:49,679
abduction so i do i was special send out

2987
01:52:53,910 --> 01:52:51,440
a special thanks to him um he has a new

2988
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:53,920
episode of dark side of the ring that um

2989
01:53:10,310 --> 01:52:55,920
premieres tonight it's about from the

2990
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:12,070
i think it's on there i think it's on

2991
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:15,040
hulu anyway okay yeah it's awesome nick

2992
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:16,800
check it out um everyone check it out

2993
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:18,560
check it out really absolutely

2994
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:20,960
alien abduction as well yeah that was

2995
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,960
again like he was so he gave me like

2996
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:24,800
half an hour which i was not expecting

2997
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:26,639
he didn't even get to have lunch before

2998
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,960
going and he had a badass master of the

2999
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:30,400
universe right

3000
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,920
i was like

3001
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:34,080
clutch frank lagela doing some skeletor

3002
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,639
shakespeare

3003
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:38,080
oh man

3004
01:53:40,870 --> 01:53:39,040
what did you guys think of the new the

3005
01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:40,880
new um

3006
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:42,800
uh what was it beast master or whatever

3007
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:44,719
the kevin smith thing you mean he mean

3008
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:46,719
masters universe uh

3009
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:48,159
[\h__\h] badass

3010
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:50,960
bad ass is it good i haven't seen it yet

3011
01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:52,719
miles watched all of it with me we sat

3012
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:54,639
one saturday morning i'm just like

3013
01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:56,159
boom

3014
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:57,520
can i service there's something out of

3015
01:54:02,629 --> 01:53:58,880
you

3016
01:54:05,189 --> 01:54:02,639
the only um he-man content

3017
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:05,199
uh that i have ever seen is masters of

3018
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:08,639
the universe the movie okay yes i have

3019
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,400
never watched any of the cartoons new

3020
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:12,000
orleans i watched the cars

3021
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,960
yeah um i was a real ghostbusters guy i

3022
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:16,480
think that's the only one i watched the

3023
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:18,719
most from that era and peewee's

3024
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:20,800
playhouse was my other favorite thing

3025
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:23,119
around that time but um

3026
01:54:26,709 --> 01:54:24,560
i think my favorite

3027
01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:26,719
never really got into he-man and i don't

3028
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:28,159
care for the masters of the universe

3029
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:30,239
movie not even really a fun way i'm

3030
01:54:34,709 --> 01:54:32,400
sorry oh see i like getting like a total

3031
01:54:36,550 --> 01:54:34,719
cat and i get that and there are a lot

3032
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:36,560
of movies that i will deal with and that

3033
01:54:40,229 --> 01:54:38,480
one definitely holds some nostalgia for

3034
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:40,239
me but last time i watched it i was like

3035
01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:42,080
man i'm really struggling

3036
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:43,920
through this and it's only 86 minutes

3037
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,080
it's awful but i [\h__\h] frank lynch

3038
01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:47,920
like this okay and then i digress we'll

3039
01:54:50,229 --> 01:54:49,040
get back up

3040
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:50,239
franklin jealous so my wife's a

3041
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,239
professional stage manager and probably

3042
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:54,719
he can maybe be kind of difficult to

3043
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:56,320
work with

3044
01:54:59,669 --> 01:54:58,480
but regardless he did that movie for his

3045
01:55:02,790 --> 01:54:59,679
kids

3046
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:02,800
right um yeah that happens a lot and he

3047
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:05,520
[\h__\h] takes every

3048
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:08,159
moment of playing that villain just to

3049
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,920
the extreme and i [\h__\h] love it like

3050
01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,280
the minute she shakes me starts coming

3051
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,280
out and like

3052
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:15,040
yes i also believe it was originally

3053
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:16,960
supposed to be jack kirby

3054
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,960
matthew ryan's correct um

3055
01:55:23,189 --> 01:55:20,080
uh

3056
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:23,199
um you never saw ebay cartoons bro yeah

3057
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:25,520
well come at me bro

3058
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:26,960
um

3059
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:27,840
so

3060
01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:31,199
is ryan a cannabis consumer matthew um

3061
01:55:33,690 --> 01:55:32,880
that's a great question he is when he's

3062
01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:33,700
around me

3063
01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:35,599
[Laughter]

3064
01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:37,920
i've had my days i could say that now

3065
01:55:43,990 --> 01:55:41,119
hey it's legal here come on um no i um

3066
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:44,000
but i um there's also the jack kirby i i

3067
01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:45,520
believe jack kirby was supposed to do

3068
01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:47,440
the art or design for that movie and

3069
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:48,560
then they like

3070
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:50,480
went over budget because it was a canon

3071
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:53,199
film um first of all

3072
01:55:56,709 --> 01:55:54,480
you can still see the jack kirby

3073
01:55:58,550 --> 01:55:56,719
influence especially when um skeletor

3074
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:58,560
goes super skeletor or whatever happens

3075
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:00,800
at the end and he gets like all gold and

3076
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:03,520
he basically looks like galactus um

3077
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:05,119
but

3078
01:56:11,350 --> 01:56:07,520
this last thing is the people who made

3079
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:11,360
that movie canon films if people um

3080
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:14,000
uh watching this are familiar with canon

3081
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:15,760
films if you're not familiar with canon

3082
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:19,040
films um there's a great documentary

3083
01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:21,520
called electric boogaloo the rise and

3084
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:23,119
fall of canon i might be getting the

3085
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,960
second part of that because they may

3086
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:26,400
break it and they may break into

3087
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:28,000
break-in which was a huge success and

3088
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:29,360
then they tried to do breaking and they

3089
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:31,119
did break into electric boogaloo but

3090
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:32,800
they also did they are the reason that

3091
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:34,320
chuck dors is a movie star they are the

3092
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:35,920
reason that john called van damme is a

3093
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:39,280
movie star they are the like they

3094
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,599
just made really cheap

3095
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:44,080
shitty movies on the fly and like put

3096
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,080
the money elsewhere like just all this

3097
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:48,480
crap it's a great documentary don't

3098
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:50,320
watch the one made by the guys who own

3099
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:52,159
canon films because it's not just don't

3100
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:55,040
do it you don't want that skew um

3101
01:56:58,229 --> 01:56:56,800
watch that one and then watch the apple

3102
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:58,239
which is one of my favorite bad movies

3103
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:00,800
the time which they made was that canon

3104
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,040
yes that's canada yeah

3105
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:05,440
yeah yeah well i wanted to just bring up

3106
01:57:09,669 --> 01:57:06,880
nick you brought up that good point of

3107
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,679
like actors doing roles for their kids

3108
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:11,280
the only one other one i could think of

3109
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,480
as uh oh god what's his name uh from

3110
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:16,159
street fighter he played the main

3111
01:57:20,550 --> 01:57:18,159
villain

3112
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:20,560
yes he did that for his kids and he was

3113
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:22,560
literally on his deathbed filming that i

3114
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:24,480
think he died months after again yeah

3115
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:25,920
another example of a dude playing a

3116
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:28,080
villain who went all in

3117
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:30,560
i'm going to do it

3118
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:32,080
for topper for

3119
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:33,760
super mario let's let's not say anything

3120
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:36,960
we can't take back um

3121
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,199
uh dennis hopper for super mario

3122
01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:41,520
brothers i believe oh my god

3123
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:44,480
they went all in i love mud

3124
01:57:49,270 --> 01:57:47,280
because it's clean and dirty at the same

3125
01:57:53,270 --> 01:57:49,280
time what are we doing what are we doing

3126
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:54,790
anymore in my life but be on [\h__\h]

3127
01:57:59,830 --> 01:57:57,360
sesame street because my son loved it it

3128
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,840
would just i was like that's all guys

3129
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:01,840
exactly nick we got to say good night to

3130
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,080
anthony anthony thank you so much for

3131
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:06,080
making my week and saying i look like

3132
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:06,960
shaq

3133
01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:08,800
thank you buddy thank you for being here

3134
01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:10,320
anthony thanks for the super chats

3135
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:12,639
brother um we never got back to your

3136
01:58:16,629 --> 01:58:14,960
question we we'll we'll get we'll get to

3137
01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:16,639
it

3138
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:18,320
for sure thanks for being here buddy

3139
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,280
have a great night um let's see what

3140
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:23,280
else we have here electric boogaloo

3141
01:58:29,350 --> 01:58:26,239
people are loving it andrew um okay

3142
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:29,360
it's not it's a real movie title

3143
01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:34,470
where can we watch it um it used to be

3144
01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:35,679
on netflix now i think you'd have to

3145
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:37,280
rent it um yeah it's probably you can

3146
01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:38,639
rent it on like google play or something

3147
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:40,159
like that it's worth it it's worth one

3148
01:58:43,030 --> 01:58:41,520
i'm sure it would be like four bucks to

3149
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:43,040
rent i love that you know what else you

3150
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:45,199
can uh rent on google play alien

3151
01:59:01,430 --> 01:58:59,189
um alien abduction written by robert

3152
01:59:03,990 --> 01:59:01,440
lewis directed by maddie beckerman this

3153
01:59:08,149 --> 01:59:04,000
was another first film first oh really

3154
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:10,390
um changes a lot

3155
01:59:14,790 --> 01:59:12,320
exactly i try to keep that in mind when

3156
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:14,800
i hear that uh starring catherine

3157
01:59:20,229 --> 01:59:17,679
ziggismand jillian claire corey eid and

3158
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:20,239
riley polanski who was the 11 year old

3159
01:59:24,629 --> 01:59:21,920
kid i wonder if there's any relation to

3160
01:59:26,870 --> 01:59:24,639
the uh the polanski family i i don't

3161
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:26,880
know i didn't look that up but um

3162
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:29,360
i don't think so i hope not at least uh

3163
01:59:32,310 --> 01:59:30,560
synopsis

3164
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:32,320
vacationing family encounter an alien

3165
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:33,760
threat in this thriller based on the

3166
01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:35,119
real life brown mountain lights

3167
01:59:40,310 --> 01:59:38,000
phenomenon in north carolina which is a

3168
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:40,320
very real phenomenon um

3169
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:42,880
and actually in our podcast version of

3170
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,639
this review episode guys um we have a

3171
01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,480
special researcher who has researched

3172
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:50,159
the brown mountain lights he is featured

3173
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:51,760
in alien abduction he's the guy in the

3174
01:59:55,030 --> 01:59:53,440
beginning when they're kind of going

3175
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:55,040
through um the history of the brown

3176
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:56,320
mountain lights

3177
02:00:00,070 --> 01:59:58,560
so wait were those real were those real

3178
02:00:01,910 --> 02:00:00,080
like was that like real footage from

3179
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:01,920
like real like experts in the field at

3180
02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:03,280
the beginning of the movie

3181
02:00:08,709 --> 02:00:06,480
yes that was real footage of um he is an

3182
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:08,719
actual researcher um who's looked into

3183
02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:11,840
this stuff um and so is the woman who

3184
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:13,199
claimed to have seen the lights and

3185
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:15,040
everything um and i believe that

3186
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:17,679
physicist was real too and they they did

3187
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:20,159
they were aware that this was a found

3188
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:22,800
footage film um before they did that but

3189
02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:25,119
they saw it as an opportunity to like

3190
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:26,480
talk about the brown mountain lights

3191
02:00:29,589 --> 02:00:28,159
which i thought was cool the only reason

3192
02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:29,599
i bring that up we didn't talk about

3193
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:32,560
this so in the upn version of mcpherson

3194
02:00:38,390 --> 02:00:35,760
tape um the one they made much later on

3195
02:00:40,070 --> 02:00:38,400
they interviewed actual ufo

3196
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:40,080
researchers and told them it was a

3197
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:42,560
documentary about alien abduction

3198
02:00:44,950 --> 02:00:44,000
and had them

3199
02:00:47,109 --> 02:00:44,960
you know

3200
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:47,119
give their thoughts on alien abduction

3201
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:49,840
completely lied to them put them in this

3202
02:00:56,149 --> 02:00:52,480
upn special under their found footage

3203
02:00:57,669 --> 02:00:56,159
film um so excuse me they had no and

3204
02:01:00,070 --> 02:00:57,679
dean didn't know this either they did

3205
02:01:02,709 --> 02:01:00,080
this without because dean directed the

3206
02:01:04,629 --> 02:01:02,719
ups version as well but they had final

3207
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:04,639
say on everything they put those

3208
02:01:10,149 --> 02:01:07,679
interviews into the movie without dean's

3209
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:10,159
knowledge and he went out of his way to

3210
02:01:13,750 --> 02:01:11,679
go to all those researchers and

3211
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:13,760
apologize to them

3212
02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:14,639
so again

3213
02:01:18,950 --> 02:01:16,960
though yeah but um moving back to this

3214
02:01:20,830 --> 02:01:18,960
one i just had to get that in there um

3215
02:01:23,830 --> 02:01:20,840
what a dick thing to do dick clark

3216
02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:23,840
productions that's what i say to you um

3217
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:25,119
let's move back to alien about that's

3218
02:01:29,030 --> 02:01:26,880
not going to read well in the podcast

3219
02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:29,040
it's not it's not middle finger is what

3220
02:01:33,109 --> 02:01:31,760
i'm doing podcast

3221
02:01:36,310 --> 02:01:33,119
you son of a

3222
02:01:40,870 --> 02:01:38,470
what do you guys think um we have

3223
02:01:43,030 --> 02:01:40,880
another fun footage film being shot by a

3224
02:01:47,109 --> 02:01:43,040
autistic 11 year old kid

3225
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:49,189
nick i'm seeing you shake your head i no

3226
02:01:52,149 --> 02:01:50,159
worries

3227
02:01:54,229 --> 02:01:52,159
on this film than any of the other films

3228
02:01:55,830 --> 02:01:54,239
okay let's start initial thoughts with

3229
02:01:56,709 --> 02:01:55,840
how this thing started all right let's

3230
02:01:58,149 --> 02:01:56,719
start from the beginning do you want me

3231
02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:58,159
to can i do you want me to just like go

3232
02:02:01,350 --> 02:02:00,159
into it do it yeah i'll do it i is a

3233
02:02:02,830 --> 02:02:01,360
general rule

3234
02:02:05,669 --> 02:02:02,840
and i'll give you my

3235
02:02:07,990 --> 02:02:05,679
like thank you did not like this movie

3236
02:02:09,669 --> 02:02:08,000
um the autistic kid thing was one of the

3237
02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:09,679
first so

3238
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:13,119
i literally go uh why autism dad's a

3239
02:02:16,709 --> 02:02:15,360
dick never go camping and then then i

3240
02:02:18,390 --> 02:02:16,719
get into the bird thing like so many

3241
02:02:21,109 --> 02:02:18,400
[\h__\h] birds um

3242
02:02:24,550 --> 02:02:21,119
so here's my thing well that is the ufo

3243
02:02:26,870 --> 02:02:24,560
i know i know it is

3244
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:26,880
but i just like i was like lot that's a

3245
02:02:30,070 --> 02:02:28,480
lot of birds always like where all these

3246
02:02:32,310 --> 02:02:30,080
[\h__\h] birds coming from there's so

3247
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:32,320
many birds nick you haven't seen dark

3248
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:40,229
they're coming from the dark sky

3249
02:02:43,350 --> 02:02:42,390
that's a whole other story

3250
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:43,360
um

3251
02:02:48,310 --> 02:02:46,400
so here's the thing being around like so

3252
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:48,320
a little bit disclaimer within like a

3253
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:49,440
college professor one of the things that

3254
02:02:55,350 --> 02:02:51,920
i do is my class for the last couple

3255
02:02:57,430 --> 02:02:55,360
years has been uh open to students who

3256
02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:57,440
are on the spectrum or other

3257
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:59,199
things we'll take my will take my class

3258
02:03:02,870 --> 02:03:01,520
like i'm i am a credit i want i i opened

3259
02:03:03,910 --> 02:03:02,880
up my class up to as much diversity as

3260
02:03:05,830 --> 02:03:03,920
possible so i've dealt with a lot of

3261
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:05,840
students in a learning perspective who

3262
02:03:09,030 --> 02:03:07,760
are on the spectrum from

3263
02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:09,040
all kinds of different levels of the

3264
02:03:12,229 --> 02:03:10,159
spectrum because you guys know like it

3265
02:03:13,030 --> 02:03:12,239
goes in a lot of like ways

3266
02:03:15,830 --> 02:03:13,040
um

3267
02:03:17,430 --> 02:03:15,840
first of all i was like really why why

3268
02:03:18,950 --> 02:03:17,440
are you making this choice like why is

3269
02:03:20,229 --> 02:03:18,960
this your choice why is the kid have to

3270
02:03:21,750 --> 02:03:20,239
be on the spectrum and then suddenly i

3271
02:03:23,350 --> 02:03:21,760
was like not even a really good job of

3272
02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:23,360
representing somebody on the spectrum i

3273
02:03:28,229 --> 02:03:26,000
know the spectrum has a lot of like

3274
02:03:29,910 --> 02:03:28,239
hues and colors but i was like i just

3275
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:29,920
don't believe it i don't believe it i

3276
02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:31,280
don't think it was a good representation

3277
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:32,880
of people on the spectrum i think it was

3278
02:03:36,229 --> 02:03:34,960
a really sorry to the director it's her

3279
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:36,239
first film

3280
02:03:41,830 --> 02:03:38,639
listen i thought it was a really

3281
02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:41,840
unnecessary decision to make and it

3282
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:43,760
bugged me it bugged me immediately going

3283
02:03:46,390 --> 02:03:44,880
into the film i was like this is a

3284
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:46,400
storytelling

3285
02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:47,280
choice

3286
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:49,119
that i don't think

3287
02:03:52,709 --> 02:03:50,880
serves that community

3288
02:03:53,830 --> 02:03:52,719
right but in representation i don't

3289
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:53,840
think actually serve a story because to

3290
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:56,000
me he was just pretty much any other

3291
02:04:00,310 --> 02:03:58,000
[\h__\h] kid except they didn't want to

3292
02:04:01,910 --> 02:04:00,320
put the camera down but guess what kid

3293
02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:01,920
with the camera probably not going to

3294
02:04:05,030 --> 02:04:03,599
put the [\h__\h] camera down they would

3295
02:04:07,510 --> 02:04:05,040
have done that anyway it just was like

3296
02:04:09,109 --> 02:04:07,520
it was just like a trope it's like ah

3297
02:04:11,669 --> 02:04:09,119
came with autism

3298
02:04:13,589 --> 02:04:11,679
yeah like and then okay

3299
02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:13,599
i wasn't dead but that so

3300
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:15,440
here's and i'm not defending the

3301
02:04:19,669 --> 02:04:18,239
director because i agree with you too uh

3302
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:19,679
and i'm actually probably interested in

3303
02:04:23,910 --> 02:04:21,760
this i don't think i feel strongly about

3304
02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:23,920
it either way but from what i saw i

3305
02:04:29,430 --> 02:04:26,960
think it got uh praised for this

3306
02:04:31,350 --> 02:04:29,440
well here's the thing he did base it on

3307
02:04:34,069 --> 02:04:31,360
an actual kid he knew

3308
02:04:35,669 --> 02:04:34,079
this was his this was his way of

3309
02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:35,679
dealing with the world and viewing the

3310
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:38,079
world was through a camera so there was

3311
02:04:41,990 --> 02:04:39,599
some personal

3312
02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:42,000
touch to it but nick i completely

3313
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:43,920
understand for anyone who didn't doesn't

3314
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:46,000
know that this could come off very

3315
02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:48,400
insensitive in some ways so

3316
02:04:52,870 --> 02:04:50,159
i understand that my suggestion would

3317
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:52,880
have been in that situation right is to

3318
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:54,800
i mean one like any time you have more

3319
02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:56,800
representation in film is a good thing

3320
02:05:00,229 --> 02:04:58,320
right like having a character on the

3321
02:05:02,790 --> 02:05:00,239
spectrum is is a net positive good thing

3322
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:02,800
within representation but um

3323
02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:04,800
if you're going to make that choice

3324
02:05:08,470 --> 02:05:06,320
what i would have done would have been

3325
02:05:09,750 --> 02:05:08,480
because that idea of viewing the world

3326
02:05:12,069 --> 02:05:09,760
through a camera

3327
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:12,079
you could have made that choice with an

3328
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:15,040
older actor who could more who could

3329
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:16,880
handle that better and make more clear

3330
02:05:20,310 --> 02:05:18,639
choices and i think

3331
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:20,320
i get that you utilize it in a better

3332
02:05:23,589 --> 02:05:21,920
way than casting a kitten this is not

3333
02:05:25,750 --> 02:05:23,599
that the kid did a bad job right i'm not

3334
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:25,760
trying to like dis on like a 12 year

3335
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:27,360
old's acting job which is [\h__\h] hard

3336
02:05:32,069 --> 02:05:30,000
to do when you're 35. like

3337
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:32,079
but you could have made that same choice

3338
02:05:34,790 --> 02:05:33,119
in a way that i think would have been

3339
02:05:35,589 --> 02:05:34,800
more effective

3340
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,599
and

3341
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:37,199
brought out that agency if you want to

3342
02:05:41,990 --> 02:05:39,840
give agency to uh

3343
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:42,000
an underrepresented group in film

3344
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:43,760
um i just i did not like how it was

3345
02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:45,599
handled i just did not for me it did not

3346
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:47,280
aid to the film it hindered the film and

3347
02:05:53,030 --> 02:05:50,400
like it just didn't do anything

3348
02:05:54,790 --> 02:05:53,040
for me in that way well and the other

3349
02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:54,800
thing too is they they play with it a

3350
02:05:58,390 --> 02:05:56,560
little you know he sees

3351
02:06:00,629 --> 02:05:58,400
i think a mailbox that has like the

3352
02:06:01,589 --> 02:06:00,639
address thirty-one

3353
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:01,599
thirty-one

3354
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:04,239
31 and like i understand that's that can

3355
02:06:09,589 --> 02:06:07,760
be a way that an autistic child um uh

3356
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:09,599
expresses their self through numbers or

3357
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:10,480
through

3358
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:13,199
repetition um but i thought there was

3359
02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:15,119
going to be a meaning to that like yeah

3360
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:18,079
it was just 31 gonna play some role in

3361
02:06:21,669 --> 02:06:19,840
this eventually or is the kid gonna be

3362
02:06:23,189 --> 02:06:21,679
like let's go back to 31 that's where

3363
02:06:25,030 --> 02:06:23,199
we'll find safety i think it was just

3364
02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:25,040
never brought up again they did it just

3365
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:27,119
to do it and that to me like okay fine

3366
02:06:30,069 --> 02:06:28,480
the artistic vision as well the cameras

3367
02:06:32,790 --> 02:06:30,079
how i've used the world that did not

3368
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:32,800
come through to me and so to me it is a

3369
02:06:38,470 --> 02:06:35,360
it is a unlike mcpherson tapes right and

3370
02:06:40,310 --> 02:06:38,480
unlike alien abduct uh um

3371
02:06:43,109 --> 02:06:40,320
alien sleepover like we talk about

3372
02:06:44,470 --> 02:06:43,119
making clear purposeful choices um in

3373
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:44,480
storytelling

3374
02:06:49,430 --> 02:06:46,400
that to me was not one of them it was

3375
02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:49,440
not clear to me and if i as a as an

3376
02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:52,719
actor as a director as as a teacher like

3377
02:06:55,510 --> 02:06:54,079
i would that was like rule one and be

3378
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:55,520
like why why the [\h__\h] are you doing this

3379
02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:56,639
like what

3380
02:06:59,589 --> 02:06:58,000
that's your choice like if i don't

3381
02:07:01,750 --> 02:06:59,599
understand as an audience it is

3382
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:01,760
ineffective then why do it

3383
02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:04,239
sorry okay and i'm done and done no no

3384
02:07:08,069 --> 02:07:06,239
no deborah thank you for joining us from

3385
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:08,079
australia thank you thank you um thanks

3386
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:10,719
dad sensational chat guys we also have

3387
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,000
ashley ellis um who's either in wales

3388
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:16,400
scotland or england ash let me know in

3389
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:18,000
the comments buddy i don't remember

3390
02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:19,920
exactly where you live but i know it's

3391
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:22,079
late over there so all of my european

3392
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:23,599
listeners and everyone thank you for

3393
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:25,599
being here guys i know it's super late

3394
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:27,599
it's getting late on the east coast

3395
02:07:32,229 --> 02:07:30,639
10 p.m at least for us old guys but um

3396
02:07:34,390 --> 02:07:32,239
uh if you're just joining us i'm here

3397
02:07:37,069 --> 02:07:34,400
with andrew i'm here with nick two of my

3398
02:07:39,830 --> 02:07:37,079
best buds in new york tv and film

3399
02:07:42,310 --> 02:07:39,840
extraordinaires we are reviewing found

3400
02:07:43,910 --> 02:07:42,320
footage alien abduction films um if you

3401
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:43,920
want to help out the show the super chat

3402
02:07:48,149 --> 02:07:46,320
is open we will answer your questions we

3403
02:07:50,069 --> 02:07:48,159
will take your comments help out

3404
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,079
somewhere in the skies any way you can

3405
02:07:56,229 --> 02:07:52,400
um but yeah let's keep moving on with

3406
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:56,239
alien abduction um so i guess i can't i

3407
02:08:00,149 --> 02:07:57,920
kind of like this one

3408
02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:00,159
okay we have a family

3409
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:02,400
we got a family going on a camping trip

3410
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,920
um so let's start there they're on a

3411
02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:05,360
camping trip they seem to be getting

3412
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:07,520
along really well um they seem like a

3413
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:10,320
pretty tight-knit family um

3414
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:12,960
you know and uh we get some beautiful

3415
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:14,880
shots of the north carolina mountain

3416
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:16,960
ranges which i thought was beautiful

3417
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:20,480
um and then kind of our first um

3418
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:21,679
i guess

3419
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:24,320
issue is um

3420
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:26,320
they see these lights they see the brown

3421
02:08:29,109 --> 02:08:27,920
mountain lights which i thought was an

3422
02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:29,119
awesome scene

3423
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:30,800
uh agreed to disagree i think our first

3424
02:08:34,390 --> 02:08:32,320
kind of issue which is what nick brought

3425
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:34,400
up um is that the dad's a real dick for

3426
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,430
he does a lot of sex and [\h__\h] too and

3427
02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:41,280
here's the thing i believe

3428
02:08:44,229 --> 02:08:42,880
the intent

3429
02:08:46,149 --> 02:08:44,239
and you see this a lot especially in

3430
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:46,159
horror movies is to have

3431
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:48,880
him be somebody who is a dick but has

3432
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,040
like some redemptive redemptive moments

3433
02:08:53,750 --> 02:08:52,800
right at some point you often write

3434
02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:53,760
before

3435
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:56,320
you would die now this did happen in

3436
02:09:01,669 --> 02:08:59,119
that in this movie however there was

3437
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:01,679
zero breath to it like he just goes from

3438
02:09:05,910 --> 02:09:03,760
being a dick to having this moment where

3439
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:05,920
he like tells his son to go back which

3440
02:09:10,709 --> 02:09:09,040
by the way happens with three different

3441
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:10,719
characters in this movie where they're

3442
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:14,079
just like in a row a character goes i'll

3443
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:16,560
stay here you save yourself that happens

3444
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:18,800
to three different characters in a row

3445
02:09:23,270 --> 02:09:20,880
in this movie

3446
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:23,280
and again when i say i liked it i will i

3447
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:25,199
i there are things that i think are

3448
02:09:29,270 --> 02:09:27,360
weaker things about this movie um than

3449
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:29,280
the others um

3450
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:30,480
there are some things that i think it

3451
02:09:35,990 --> 02:09:34,000
does well um but i do think that um i i

3452
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:36,000
i there was more things that i was kind

3453
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:37,599
of just like scratching my head at a

3454
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:39,679
little bit yeah i get it well and you

3455
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:40,800
know this

3456
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,960
is hard if a movie comes out even kind

3457
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:44,000
of good

3458
02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:01,030
any of the like

3459
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:02,880
uh i think the

3460
02:10:07,589 --> 02:10:06,239
improv was weaker in this movie um that

3461
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:07,599
being said

3462
02:10:12,390 --> 02:10:09,760
i think this cast had a kind of reverse

3463
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,400
at the mcpherson stuff which is when

3464
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:14,400
they had to turn to a script

3465
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:16,079
i thought that's when this cast had a

3466
02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:18,480
chance to shine a little bit more than

3467
02:10:22,149 --> 02:10:20,079
when they were trying to make up things

3468
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:22,159
on their own these improv is also very

3469
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:23,920
hard exactly especially when you're

3470
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,239
supposed to fake a familial connection

3471
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,800
to people yeah i think in this film we

3472
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:30,159
see very

3473
02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,560
um trained actors

3474
02:10:34,870 --> 02:10:34,079
uh who

3475
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:34,880
can

3476
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:36,719
use a script to their advantage where i

3477
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:38,480
think improv actors

3478
02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:40,400
that's not their strengths i totally get

3479
02:10:44,870 --> 02:10:42,800
that and i think in this one we saw

3480
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:44,880
actors who are used to having a script

3481
02:10:47,910 --> 02:10:45,760
um

3482
02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:47,920
really dig into their character and try

3483
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:49,679
to think of what they would do in that

3484
02:10:54,550 --> 02:10:51,920
situation i didn't see so much

3485
02:10:56,390 --> 02:10:54,560
freedom in terms of improving uh we will

3486
02:10:58,310 --> 02:10:56,400
hear from one of the actors from the

3487
02:11:00,870 --> 02:10:58,320
film in a little bit

3488
02:11:02,229 --> 02:11:00,880
about that process but um

3489
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:02,239
yeah yeah so

3490
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:04,960
what i like about this one is

3491
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:06,880
and i don't mean this in a bad way it

3492
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:08,719
was kind of a paint by number of what

3493
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:10,880
you would think in abduction experience

3494
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:12,639
how it would escalate you start with

3495
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:15,040
lights in the sky and then you get kind

3496
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:17,520
of a little closer to the beings and

3497
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:19,520
then you get the full out abduction

3498
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:21,840
experience and i thought our first kind

3499
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:24,239
of introduction to the aliens in this

3500
02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:25,920
one was

3501
02:11:31,589 --> 02:11:28,960
very effective so um let's kind of jump

3502
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,599
to they're driving they get lost in the

3503
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,520
mountains they don't have any phone

3504
02:11:38,149 --> 02:11:35,760
reception which again this movie's in

3505
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:38,159
2014 you need a reason that your cell

3506
02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:39,360
phones aren't working that's just the

3507
02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:41,920
way horror movies work now unfortunately

3508
02:11:45,030 --> 02:11:43,440
um and i thought that was a good way to

3509
02:11:46,310 --> 02:11:45,040
do it [\h__\h] that [\h__\h] does not work in

3510
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:46,320
the mountains if you go hiking your

3511
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:48,800
phone sometimes yeah and neither does

3512
02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:51,599
your gps so that all was very it made

3513
02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:54,079
perfect sense um they come up on this

3514
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:56,560
tunnel in the mountains oh i have a yeah

3515
02:12:00,709 --> 02:11:58,880
after there's before the birds i said

3516
02:12:02,629 --> 02:12:00,719
birds that was supposed that was

3517
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:02,639
surprisingly that was

3518
02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:04,960
before the birds i thought it the first

3519
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:06,560
time i saw this film i could have sworn

3520
02:12:09,910 --> 02:12:07,520
it was

3521
02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:09,920
after the birth before like for the

3522
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:12,400
birds for the birds um we'll get to the

3523
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:15,920
birds um i have a good one

3524
02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:17,760
let's talk about this tunnel scene this

3525
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:20,800
is kind of our first major scare moment

3526
02:12:23,830 --> 02:12:23,040
i would say they come up and it's very

3527
02:12:25,189 --> 02:12:23,840
like

3528
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:25,199
almost

3529
02:12:29,189 --> 02:12:28,000
um i would equate it to like

3530
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:29,199
um

3531
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:34,560
this idea of everyone just vanishes out

3532
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:35,920
of thin air they show up and all these

3533
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:38,800
cars are vacant um all the doors look

3534
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:41,280
like they were ripped open nobody's in

3535
02:12:48,709 --> 02:12:46,400
them the cars are all messed up and um

3536
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:48,719
when that happened there was a time

3537
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:51,199
there was a point for this movie that i

3538
02:12:54,709 --> 02:12:52,880
that i thought like and it was probably

3539
02:12:56,629 --> 02:12:54,719
just cheaper maybe it was cheaper to

3540
02:13:00,870 --> 02:12:56,639
shoot it this way maybe this was the uh

3541
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:02,870
this could have been the intent all that

3542
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:05,280
all that stuff

3543
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:07,040
when that happened what i like about

3544
02:13:11,109 --> 02:13:09,199
found this to me some of the best found

3545
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:11,119
footage movies is there's something it

3546
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:13,280
feels like you're seeing it

3547
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:15,280
sneakily like something got out that you

3548
02:13:19,669 --> 02:13:17,520
weren't supposed to see that you've now

3549
02:13:21,510 --> 02:13:19,679
gotten your hands on um

3550
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:21,520
and even cloverfield does this where

3551
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:23,840
it's just like at least with that

3552
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,440
you're seeing a different perspective of

3553
02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:27,119
something huge

3554
02:13:30,069 --> 02:13:28,400
for this

3555
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:30,079
when that moment happened i was like

3556
02:13:33,589 --> 02:13:31,280
there's no

3557
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:33,599
it kind of took the found footage aspect

3558
02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:36,719
of it away from from me for some reason

3559
02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:38,079
because i feel i felt like i was like

3560
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:39,920
well this story would just kind of be

3561
02:13:44,069 --> 02:13:41,840
out there and now that i say this out

3562
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:44,079
loud i'm not even sure if it's like a if

3563
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:45,760
it's fair to put that on the movie but

3564
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:47,840
it was at that point that i was like i

3565
02:13:51,109 --> 02:13:49,840
almost wish

3566
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:51,119
um

3567
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:53,040
that it wasn't

3568
02:13:56,390 --> 02:13:55,040
a found foot footage movie at that point

3569
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:56,400
i was like that would be cool if this

3570
02:14:01,910 --> 02:13:58,480
was just a regular movie you know what i

3571
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,920
mean like i thought the events in it

3572
02:14:05,430 --> 02:14:03,520
um

3573
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:05,440
were interesting enough but something

3574
02:14:09,109 --> 02:14:07,360
about trying to make it

3575
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:09,119
found footage i thought wasn't very

3576
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:11,599
cohesive and then because of that i i

3577
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:12,960
feel like some of the improv got in the

3578
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:14,480
way sometimes

3579
02:14:18,790 --> 02:14:16,320
they're just you know

3580
02:14:20,069 --> 02:14:18,800
that's a great point andrew i love that

3581
02:14:22,629 --> 02:14:20,079
i wonder if i would have liked this more

3582
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:22,639
if it was just

3583
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:24,960
and with the kids with the kid too again

3584
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:26,960
like i said i um

3585
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:27,679
i

3586
02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:31,840
was brought up and um

3587
02:14:35,830 --> 02:14:34,000
uh so i don't really have a opinion

3588
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:35,840
strongly either way but i

3589
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:36,960
like i

3590
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:39,280
nick obviously

3591
02:14:43,270 --> 02:14:41,599
had strong enough feelings to speak as

3592
02:14:46,390 --> 02:14:43,280
passionately as he did so i don't want

3593
02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:46,400
to dismiss that either um it's just not

3594
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:47,840
how i took it in no i'm just saying no

3595
02:14:51,189 --> 02:14:49,920
i'm just saying i like that like

3596
02:14:51,990 --> 02:14:51,199
you know people stand up for other

3597
02:14:55,589 --> 02:14:52,000
people

3598
02:14:57,589 --> 02:14:55,599
jim does not watch movies

3599
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:57,599
don't watch movies okay

3600
02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:00,560
all right fair enough my man

3601
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:03,119
but yeah just but real sorry

3602
02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:05,440
no that's a very good observation but

3603
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:07,599
but what the thing is too i think one of

3604
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:09,360
the reasons i didn't notice it is be for

3605
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:11,679
me he became kind of a non-character at

3606
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:13,199
a certain point

3607
02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:15,840
um honestly i i kind of felt like

3608
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:17,280
literally fell in the background for me

3609
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:19,360
i those characters are always the ones

3610
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:20,320
that i'm

3611
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:21,280
least

3612
02:15:24,470 --> 02:15:23,199
interested in is the people operating

3613
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:24,480
the camera which is why i kind of

3614
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:26,320
appreciate that in um

3615
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:28,239
uh the slumber party one they put it on

3616
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:30,400
a dock because most of the time those

3617
02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:32,320
characters just kind of cease being

3618
02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:33,760
characters for me because i know it's

3619
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:35,599
not my point of view i know i'm seeing

3620
02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:37,119
it from somebody else and to me they're

3621
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:39,360
just kind of a means to an end very

3622
02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:40,400
rarely

3623
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:41,360
i think

3624
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:43,119
i i can't like blair witch does it

3625
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:44,480
because i switch the camera around i

3626
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:48,960
feel like um but you don't often get

3627
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:50,960
to know the person behind the camera

3628
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:53,440
much at least not in these examples yeah

3629
02:15:57,109 --> 02:15:55,119
i i it's like it's like a narrator you

3630
02:15:57,910 --> 02:15:57,119
don't know like yes you

3631
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:57,920
yeah

3632
02:16:01,910 --> 02:16:00,560
um i will say the tunnel scene

3633
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:01,920
had for me

3634
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:04,079
the scariest moment in this entire movie

3635
02:16:09,669 --> 02:16:07,280
yeah and that was the day the dad's like

3636
02:16:12,470 --> 02:16:09,679
i was like oh [\h__\h] that was scary man i

3637
02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:12,480
was like straight up like possession i i

3638
02:16:16,709 --> 02:16:15,360
don't know it's quick and because again

3639
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:16,719
for like

3640
02:16:20,790 --> 02:16:18,960
alien abduction stuff for me the less i

3641
02:16:23,189 --> 02:16:20,800
know right especially someone who isn't

3642
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:23,199
as like engulfed in the research in the

3643
02:16:27,430 --> 02:16:25,440
culture the less i know

3644
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:27,440
the scarier [\h__\h] is because that's

3645
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:28,960
what scares me and so just to see it

3646
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,360
happen like i know something's going on

3647
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:33,280
something's got him

3648
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:34,800
get the [\h__\h] out but then you don't know

3649
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:36,000
and then you're left with it i was like

3650
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:36,880
oh

3651
02:16:40,469 --> 02:16:38,399
that was just

3652
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:40,479
let me ask you this man um and i agree

3653
02:16:44,150 --> 02:16:43,040
it was a very effective first kind of um

3654
02:16:46,950 --> 02:16:44,160
intense

3655
02:16:50,150 --> 02:16:46,960
moment but we do see

3656
02:16:52,389 --> 02:16:50,160
the alien we we did see the alien walk

3657
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:52,399
by and then we do get a very quick

3658
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:54,160
upgrade is that the first quick is that

3659
02:16:58,950 --> 02:16:55,840
the first quick yes

3660
02:17:01,750 --> 02:16:58,960
that really irked me because i i go back

3661
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:01,760
to what you said like less is more and

3662
02:17:06,230 --> 02:17:03,120
we're not even

3663
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:06,240
25 minutes into the film and we already

3664
02:17:10,629 --> 02:17:08,800
see what is hunting them essentially and

3665
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:10,639
i kind of didn't want that i wanted to

3666
02:17:13,910 --> 02:17:12,960
keep the mystery going of what is

3667
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:13,920
happening

3668
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:16,160
why are these crows falling from the sky

3669
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:18,800
why are we you know what i mean i i i

3670
02:17:22,629 --> 02:17:20,800
don't i don't disagree with you but i do

3671
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:22,639
think because for me i i with that

3672
02:17:27,190 --> 02:17:25,519
moment i was like wow they really like

3673
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:27,200
i thought like

3674
02:17:30,309 --> 02:17:28,399
with something like this you really had

3675
02:17:33,110 --> 02:17:30,319
to [\h__\h] go for broke i feel like they

3676
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:33,120
went especially at this point in 2014

3677
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:34,240
like it's

3678
02:17:36,709 --> 02:17:35,840
this is not

3679
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,719
new

3680
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:39,120
this is not this is not breaking any

3681
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,639
ground this is when if anything um

3682
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:44,399
movies like uh

3683
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:47,200
record have come out people have like

3684
02:17:53,349 --> 02:17:49,760
begun to even just in other countries

3685
02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:53,359
elevate um guys watch record rec it's so

3686
02:17:57,910 --> 02:17:54,880
good it's

3687
02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:57,920
phenomenal um a wonderful writer named

3688
02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:00,559
matt donato um

3689
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:02,080
oh ryan

3690
02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:07,349
so good okay really good yeah that movie

3691
02:18:09,990 --> 02:18:08,160
is great

3692
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:10,000
american audiences might know it as

3693
02:18:16,790 --> 02:18:14,559
quarantine because it was remade oh okay

3694
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,800
but my point being found footage things

3695
02:18:21,669 --> 02:18:18,719
are not new at this point so i feel like

3696
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:21,679
to help themselves stand aside

3697
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:24,160
they had to make it clear that they

3698
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:26,319
early on that they were not going to be

3699
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:27,840
one of the found footage movies where

3700
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:29,359
you don't see anything that's a good

3701
02:18:34,469 --> 02:18:31,120
point i do think that was very

3702
02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:34,479
intentional and i don't while i do think

3703
02:18:39,349 --> 02:18:36,800
that this movie

3704
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:39,359
um

3705
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:41,359
no i don't want to say that like i think

3706
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:42,880
that that

3707
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,319
um

3708
02:18:47,990 --> 02:18:46,160
is successful in what it's trying to get

3709
02:18:49,589 --> 02:18:48,000
across which is that like this is what

3710
02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:49,599
it is here's your kind of here's your

3711
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:50,639
answer

3712
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,080
yeah exactly and then um with this one

3713
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:55,920
because they're i think they're making

3714
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,439
it pretty i also think with that and

3715
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:59,599
again i thought this was mcpherson tape

3716
02:19:03,990 --> 02:19:01,920
that when they're showing the aliens and

3717
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:04,000
they look like that like you know that

3718
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,960
i'm like

3719
02:19:08,230 --> 02:19:06,639
they're letting us to me that's like

3720
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:08,240
this is fiction you know what i mean

3721
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:10,000
this is a very clear indication that

3722
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:12,719
this is not a real thing um apparently

3723
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:16,240
it wasn't for people in 1989 but i i um

3724
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,519
i so with that moment i appreciated that

3725
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:21,920
because then they start pulling from all

3726
02:19:26,150 --> 02:19:24,240
these other you got the birds you got

3727
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:26,160
the lights you got like you know all

3728
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:28,639
these other different ufo tropes that

3729
02:19:33,110 --> 02:19:30,880
they start pulling from from all these

3730
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:33,120
various stories for one story

3731
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:35,120
um and i think it all kind of kicks into

3732
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:37,120
gear there so that you're not really

3733
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:38,479
questioning it either you know they're

3734
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:40,479
wearing the alien nature of it on their

3735
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:41,760
sleeve and wow

3736
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:43,920
i agree i can see how that could not be

3737
02:19:48,070 --> 02:19:46,080
successful for some people it didn't

3738
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:48,080
bother me and i feel like i understand

3739
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:50,800
why they had to do that and also at that

3740
02:19:53,349 --> 02:19:52,160
point i mean the name of the movie is

3741
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:53,359
literally

3742
02:20:15,270 --> 02:19:59,349
yeah it's not like fourth kind or you

3743
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:17,349
i ate almonds during one of these videos

3744
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,800
and i've been pulling almonds out of my

3745
02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:20,399
mouth for the entire so i'm just i

3746
02:20:25,349 --> 02:20:22,640
apologize no because the thing is i'm

3747
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:25,359
sitting here and i'm like i see myself

3748
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:27,520
like full screen i see myself kind of

3749
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:28,880
sitting here going like this got it

3750
02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:30,479
going

3751
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,479
like trying to get these almonds out and

3752
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:35,040
i look like a [\h__\h] cokehead and like

3753
02:20:39,110 --> 02:20:37,280
grinding my teeth and i just wanted to

3754
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:39,120
clarify that for people

3755
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:42,479
i i am not i am not i was not a clapton

3756
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:44,560
i'm not a cocaine fan the chat was

3757
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:47,600
concerned too the chat was concerned

3758
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:49,040
let's get to another one of the

3759
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:51,280
effective um practical effects in this

3760
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:55,040
film um so dad's gone like dad's game

3761
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:56,840
he's doing it

3762
02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:59,120
um the mom the redemption arc did not

3763
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:01,439
work i think it did not work

3764
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:03,439
at this point the family's kind of like

3765
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,760
all right moving on um we got to get the

3766
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:07,520
hell out of here i like that like he is

3767
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:10,080
gone go go go go go go we'll deal with

3768
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:12,080
it later

3769
02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:14,080
oh wait oh my god no wait wait wait wait

3770
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:15,520
wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

3771
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:18,319
wait wait we cannot move on without

3772
02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:20,000
addressing this they're driving in the

3773
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:21,520
car in the beginning right and i'm sorry

3774
02:21:26,469 --> 02:21:23,359
but this is just yes oh it's gotta be

3775
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:26,479
real this gotta be real mad um uh

3776
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:28,319
because they have the uh uh let me smell

3777
02:21:32,710 --> 02:21:30,880
your dick playing right they're playing

3778
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,720
let me smell your dick

3779
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:34,479
i i i'm not even sure if that's the

3780
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:36,160
exact name of the song but that's how

3781
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:37,920
i'm going to refer it um

3782
02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:38,800
so

3783
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:40,720
they're playing this

3784
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:42,080
and they think it's funny because

3785
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:43,760
they're saying this over and over and

3786
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,920
over again and we get the joke and then

3787
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,000
somehow

3788
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:50,160
the mom

3789
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:53,040
is dancing along and singing and then

3790
02:21:57,910 --> 02:21:56,080
like is singing it to the kids and then

3791
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:57,920
the word dick comes up

3792
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:00,640
for like the ninth time since we started

3793
02:22:05,030 --> 02:22:02,880
the scene and then she has a problem

3794
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:05,040
with it and now the other thing is too i

3795
02:22:08,550 --> 02:22:06,560
could i might i would maybe have to

3796
02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:08,560
rewatch it but i'm not going to do that

3797
02:22:13,670 --> 02:22:10,319
for this particular scene

3798
02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:13,680
um where they uh maybe not now just not

3799
02:22:17,110 --> 02:22:15,280
now maybe at some point in the future

3800
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:17,120
fair enough um everybody go watch alien

3801
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:20,479
objection um i i i rented it so i don't

3802
02:22:27,910 --> 02:22:22,880
even feel like i paid some kind of money

3803
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,469
i that to me felt like a moment and i

3804
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:32,560
would almost want to ask is it riley is

3805
02:22:37,349 --> 02:22:34,080
the name of the woman

3806
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:37,359
who riley is the son the 11 year old son

3807
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:39,359
um who's the young lady who

3808
02:22:43,510 --> 02:22:41,200
wrote a question or submitted a tape or

3809
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:43,520
what have you uh that would be jillian

3810
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:45,920
claire who her character name is also

3811
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:47,840
jillian she's the daughter gotcha yes

3812
02:22:54,870 --> 02:22:51,680
okay so jillian might know i feel like

3813
02:22:57,190 --> 02:22:54,880
there was not a song playing

3814
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:57,200
they put it in post or something yes

3815
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:59,200
yeah absolutely that happens and it can

3816
02:23:02,790 --> 02:23:01,840
be hard to deal with okay andrew

3817
02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:02,800
true

3818
02:23:19,670 --> 02:23:16,790
six times already now you just heard i

3819
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:19,680
don't anyways yeah we're nitpicking

3820
02:23:25,510 --> 02:23:23,040
let's um let's get to the crows um

3821
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:25,520
so the family are getting the hell out

3822
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,120
of this tunnel because there's something

3823
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:29,200
in there it got the dad and then all of

3824
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:31,840
a sudden all these crows start falling

3825
02:23:35,590 --> 02:23:33,920
from the sky um

3826
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,600
and it's a pretty

3827
02:23:41,030 --> 02:23:38,319
yeah tote totally lots of lots of cars

3828
02:23:43,750 --> 02:23:41,040
um and this is kind of

3829
02:23:46,630 --> 02:23:43,760
um been said to have been reported in

3830
02:23:48,469 --> 02:23:46,640
areas where ufo phenomena is

3831
02:23:50,950 --> 02:23:48,479
happens that birds just fall out of the

3832
02:23:52,429 --> 02:23:50,960
sky it could be something a lot of

3833
02:23:54,790 --> 02:23:52,439
people believe it's like an

3834
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:54,800
electromagnetic thing whatever power

3835
02:24:00,070 --> 02:23:57,520
these ufos have is messing with the

3836
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:00,080
birds and um hey we see that all the

3837
02:24:05,510 --> 02:24:02,880
time um we see birds fly into

3838
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:05,520
radio towers or sure um you know stuff

3839
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,560
like that so but to have that many just

3840
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:10,479
raining from the sky oh that was rough

3841
02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:12,240
yeah what do you got nick i have so many

3842
02:24:16,309 --> 02:24:14,560
birds and then i just put toasters true

3843
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:16,319
west lots of props

3844
02:24:21,190 --> 02:24:17,920
it's like a thing i was like man you got

3845
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:21,200
yourself a [\h__\h]

3846
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:24,000
wow that's a deep theater yeah

3847
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:25,760
i think i was like man i've been thought

3848
02:24:34,309 --> 02:24:31,990
um and andrew correct me if i'm wrong

3849
02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:34,319
there was a scene in dark skies with the

3850
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:36,560
birds too right yes absolutely they like

3851
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:37,840
felt like there were a couple i feel

3852
02:24:41,270 --> 02:24:38,960
like that was something they hadn't

3853
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:41,280
happened a couple times and then yeah so

3854
02:24:45,030 --> 02:24:43,359
that was a pretty scary scene just to

3855
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:45,040
see that many birds falling out of the

3856
02:24:51,750 --> 02:24:48,720
sky um clearly the family is super

3857
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:51,760
traumatized by that um and now it's just

3858
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:53,920
finding somewhere to go like get the

3859
02:24:58,469 --> 02:24:56,800
hell out of here and they end up

3860
02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:58,479
back um

3861
02:25:03,030 --> 02:25:01,520
at 31 i believe it's 31 where they saw

3862
02:25:05,990 --> 02:25:03,040
that mailbox

3863
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:06,000
and um here's where we get into

3864
02:25:09,830 --> 02:25:07,520
banjo music

3865
02:25:13,510 --> 02:25:09,840
we get into uh what's that movie i'm

3866
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:15,429
well because they make a deliverance

3867
02:25:19,510 --> 02:25:17,600
joke the woman who was upset by the fact

3868
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:19,520
that she was singing dick

3869
02:25:25,510 --> 02:25:22,880
then says yeah it's like then says it's

3870
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:25,520
like deliverance except without the anal

3871
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,560
rape

3872
02:25:31,349 --> 02:25:29,520
oh and that yeah yeah which don't get me

3873
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:31,359
wrong

3874
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:33,520
that happens in that film but it felt

3875
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:36,240
like an odd joke for someone to make

3876
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:39,439
this family has an interesting dynamic

3877
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,800
very weird sense yeah yeah um well let's

3878
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:44,800
talk about it they get to this house and

3879
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:47,600
there's this redneck kind of dude living

3880
02:25:51,670 --> 02:25:49,280
alone um

3881
02:25:53,349 --> 02:25:51,680
shotgun in hand ready to protect his

3882
02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:53,359
property like you do

3883
02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:55,920
um and this is kind of where the movie

3884
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:57,760
didn't lose me but i'm like i know

3885
02:26:01,910 --> 02:26:00,720
exactly what's about to happen um and

3886
02:26:05,429 --> 02:26:01,920
i'm sorry

3887
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:05,439
apologies to the director apologies to

3888
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:07,680
to jillian um

3889
02:26:12,070 --> 02:26:10,640
i did not care for this actor i thought

3890
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:12,080
he was

3891
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:14,640
something about his voice just which one

3892
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:16,479
was the right one

3893
02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:19,040
the redneck he had like this nasally

3894
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:22,080
thing going on he seemed like a cartoon

3895
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:24,240
it just didn't work and i know what the

3896
02:26:28,070 --> 02:26:26,640
director was going for it made sense

3897
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:28,080
someone like that was living up in the

3898
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:29,840
mountains and would know how to deal

3899
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:31,120
with these

3900
02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:33,520
lights and what happens but it's the

3901
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,600
whole idea of make crafting a character

3902
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,040
right this is this is to me a

3903
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:39,200
storytelling thing and i i

3904
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:40,800
again like is it the actor is the

3905
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:42,960
director i don't know like i don't it's

3906
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:44,560
probably well the actors probably did

3907
02:26:47,750 --> 02:26:46,000
what he was asked to do like that was

3908
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:47,760
probably the brief first character but

3909
02:26:51,750 --> 02:26:48,960
like

3910
02:26:55,990 --> 02:26:51,760
you're you're making a character right

3911
02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:56,000
instead of a character so i don't give a

3912
02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:58,000
[\h__\h] about that guy i also have some

3913
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:59,920
note of him i could have punched it man

3914
02:27:01,590 --> 02:27:00,880
like

3915
02:28:33,990 --> 02:27:01,600
i

3916
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:34,000
they can't do unfortunately so um smart

3917
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:35,680
choice on her part in general like

3918
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,800
there's something like games there's

3919
02:28:40,389 --> 02:28:38,560
things that like were really smart right

3920
02:28:42,469 --> 02:28:40,399
and really work they just feel like

3921
02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:42,479
weren't

3922
02:28:47,110 --> 02:28:45,040
there the whole

3923
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:47,120
time like the gps thing in the car like

3924
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:48,640
that [\h__\h] up i was like oh that's

3925
02:28:52,870 --> 02:28:50,560
awesome because it's an older dps it's

3926
02:28:54,790 --> 02:28:52,880
not a phone so you know like once those

3927
02:28:56,150 --> 02:28:54,800
things go they're gone and you're in the

3928
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,160
mountains and like those things used to

3929
02:28:59,910 --> 02:28:58,399
[\h__\h] up anyway so i was like oh so good

3930
02:29:03,110 --> 02:28:59,920
like such a smart

3931
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:03,120
choice but then it didn't like

3932
02:29:08,870 --> 02:29:06,240
did carry on through everything

3933
02:29:09,830 --> 02:29:08,880
else yeah like in my head this is giving

3934
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:09,840
a little bit he's like when they're

3935
02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:11,600
getting out of the house like we'll take

3936
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:13,760
the back roads i'm like yo it's the

3937
02:29:18,550 --> 02:29:15,600
[\h__\h] mountains everything's a

3938
02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:20,070
bedrooms or trails you're gonna take the

3939
02:29:24,230 --> 02:29:22,479
trail like what have you driven like

3940
02:29:25,830 --> 02:29:24,240
when you drive in the mountains like my

3941
02:29:27,270 --> 02:29:25,840
my in-laws had a mountain house in north

3942
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:27,280
carolina for a little bit and like you'd

3943
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:28,479
go up to it

3944
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:29,840
and like

3945
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:31,840
it's it's all like there's one there's

3946
02:29:36,309 --> 02:29:34,160
one road there's no like back roads it's

3947
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:36,319
one goddamn road so what backwards are

3948
02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:37,840
you taking and then you end up on the

3949
02:29:43,110 --> 02:29:40,960
main road anyway i'm just like yeah what

3950
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:43,120
the logic there is yeah it's not as

3951
02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:45,120
sound right yeah

3952
02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:46,319
with the truck

3953
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:47,760
all right well let's

3954
02:29:51,270 --> 02:29:48,640
i mean

3955
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:51,280
we could go beat by beats

3956
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,760
no no no man like i and i don't want to

3957
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:56,000
keep you you guys are the fathers um

3958
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:57,520
yeah i was about to hear one of my

3959
02:30:02,469 --> 02:29:59,840
children crying right now but i think my

3960
02:30:03,990 --> 02:30:02,479
wife hasn't texted me so no i think i'm

3961
02:30:05,830 --> 02:30:04,000
good i'm good i'm good i'm good i'm good

3962
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:05,840
but um um yeah

3963
02:30:09,349 --> 02:30:07,600
let's let's fast forward a little we

3964
02:30:11,750 --> 02:30:09,359
kind of get everyone starts getting kind

3965
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:11,760
of picked off right in the home

3966
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:13,680
i remember the mom the mom getting

3967
02:30:16,950 --> 02:30:16,240
abducted and getting having bones broken

3968
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:16,960
i

3969
02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:30,960
that way too these these actors were

3970
02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:33,520
good at being in duress and making that

3971
02:30:38,389 --> 02:30:36,160
feel very real and very grounded i think

3972
02:30:40,150 --> 02:30:38,399
that was kind of almost across the board

3973
02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:40,160
so um

3974
02:30:43,750 --> 02:30:41,920
yeah when she just got all of a sudden

3975
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:43,760
yanked up like that and her bone started

3976
02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:46,319
that was really effective and even god

3977
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:48,399
oh my god it's so good and to have like

3978
02:30:52,550 --> 02:30:50,399
basically the point of view of

3979
02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:52,560
ryan almost exactly what you're saying

3980
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,680
uh towards the end there was that the um

3981
02:30:59,110 --> 02:30:57,280
uh

3982
02:31:00,309 --> 02:30:59,120
the effectiveness of like

3983
02:31:03,670 --> 02:31:00,319
you're watching these people get

3984
02:31:05,510 --> 02:31:03,680
experimented on um on these tables and

3985
02:31:07,110 --> 02:31:05,520
presumably that's about to happen to the

3986
02:31:09,590 --> 02:31:07,120
11 year old kid that we've been with the

3987
02:31:11,830 --> 02:31:09,600
whole time oh my god we have to mention

3988
02:31:14,150 --> 02:31:11,840
the way this film started i came i can't

3989
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,160
believe we didn't talk about this this

3990
02:31:17,830 --> 02:31:16,080
film starts

3991
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:17,840
on the ufo

3992
02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:19,120
right right

3993
02:31:24,230 --> 02:31:22,080
the camera is in the ufo we don't really

3994
02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:24,240
know what's going on we presume we're in

3995
02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:26,000
a ship people are getting experimented

3996
02:31:29,590 --> 02:31:28,000
on

3997
02:31:31,510 --> 02:31:29,600
did we see that ship footage at the

3998
02:31:34,150 --> 02:31:31,520
beginning of the movie yes yes at the

3999
02:31:36,710 --> 02:31:34,160
beginning of the movie it starts with

4000
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:36,720
the camera in space in this craft and

4001
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:38,720
then the camera falls to earth that's

4002
02:31:44,710 --> 02:31:42,790
i have a big is have a bigger problem

4003
02:31:45,910 --> 02:31:44,720
with this movie that i realized please

4004
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:45,920
please do it because i think that's what

4005
02:31:50,150 --> 02:31:48,479
i have yes

4006
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:50,160
look look i can't believe we didn't

4007
02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:51,280
mention that there's got to be a

4008
02:31:55,750 --> 02:31:53,200
suspension of disbelief for everything

4009
02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:55,760
and because it originally i thought it

4010
02:32:01,510 --> 02:31:58,080
happened at the end of the film i was

4011
02:32:05,110 --> 02:32:01,520
like that's silly but okay um

4012
02:32:08,469 --> 02:32:05,120
there is no way in hell

4013
02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:08,479
that a camera is going to fall

4014
02:32:14,150 --> 02:32:10,960
from outer space

4015
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:14,160
and hit the ground on earth

4016
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:16,399
without cremating

4017
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:18,160
i have that

4018
02:32:22,070 --> 02:32:20,000
how the [\h__\h] is this thing still

4019
02:32:24,230 --> 02:32:22,080
recording i know

4020
02:32:26,630 --> 02:32:24,240
again i will say i'm joking when i say

4021
02:32:27,990 --> 02:32:26,640
that ruins because that is that is that

4022
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:28,000
is about as big like that's just

4023
02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:30,160
something silly but that happened at the

4024
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:31,600
end and i was like

4025
02:32:37,670 --> 02:32:34,720
really well yeah so it ties back we get

4026
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:37,680
the same scene at the end of the movie

4027
02:32:43,429 --> 02:32:40,479
but i did not like that choice it

4028
02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:43,439
completely ruined i mean it didn't ruin

4029
02:32:49,110 --> 02:32:46,160
it but like come on man like take us on

4030
02:32:51,110 --> 02:32:49,120
the journey we don't need a comic book

4031
02:32:53,349 --> 02:32:51,120
you're probably wondering how i got into

4032
02:32:55,830 --> 02:32:53,359
this situation sort of feel to it we

4033
02:32:57,510 --> 02:32:55,840
didn't need that at the beginning

4034
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:57,520
like your film is better than that

4035
02:33:01,429 --> 02:32:59,760
that's what i honestly felt um so when

4036
02:33:04,389 --> 02:33:01,439
it came back at the end

4037
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:04,399
i i didn't i didn't care for that um and

4038
02:33:09,830 --> 02:33:06,479
also logically no there's no way the

4039
02:33:11,110 --> 02:33:09,840
camera would have survived that um

4040
02:33:14,550 --> 02:33:11,120
funny story

4041
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:14,560
that that scene was 100

4042
02:33:20,870 --> 02:33:18,080
genuinely filmed he put a high altitude

4043
02:33:23,910 --> 02:33:20,880
balloon with a camera up into the outer

4044
02:33:25,429 --> 02:33:23,920
atmosphere no [\h__\h] and he he did like

4045
02:33:27,910 --> 02:33:25,439
four of these balloons before it finally

4046
02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:27,920
oh and before he could find them

4047
02:33:32,830 --> 02:33:30,319
like the other ones just disappear well

4048
02:33:34,710 --> 02:33:32,840
that didn't work then because clearly

4049
02:33:37,510 --> 02:33:34,720
um

4050
02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:37,520
he was he literally got that camera up

4051
02:33:40,550 --> 02:33:38,960
into like

4052
02:33:42,150 --> 02:33:40,560
almost the outer right i feel like such

4053
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:42,160
an [\h__\h]

4054
02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:48,389
10 out of 10 ufos give him credit that

4055
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:50,319
scene of the camera falling back to

4056
02:33:54,309 --> 02:33:51,600
earth was

4057
02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:54,319
that's amazing brilliant that's so funny

4058
02:33:58,550 --> 02:33:56,880
it can work um

4059
02:34:00,469 --> 02:33:58,560
look look i will be the first one to

4060
02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:00,479
tell myself to eat [\h__\h] when i do

4061
02:34:04,710 --> 02:34:02,800
something right so let me just say eat

4062
02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:04,720
[\h__\h] to myself

4063
02:34:09,590 --> 02:34:06,160
because look

4064
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:09,600
10 out of 10 ufos so this is my name all

4065
02:34:14,469 --> 02:34:12,319
i think of dance move is yo

4066
02:34:16,389 --> 02:34:14,479
yo are these humans really worth that

4067
02:34:18,950 --> 02:34:16,399
because these aliens are going to a lot

4068
02:34:20,550 --> 02:34:18,960
of a lot of work for like

4069
02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:20,560
it's like three people i'm like are they

4070
02:34:24,389 --> 02:34:22,080
like well

4071
02:34:25,590 --> 02:34:24,399
creeps to the movies credit they do say

4072
02:34:27,830 --> 02:34:25,600
in the beginning people have been

4073
02:34:29,750 --> 02:34:27,840
disappearing in the brown mountains for

4074
02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:29,760
a long time i think they go back all the

4075
02:34:34,630 --> 02:34:32,160
way to like the cherokee indians like

4076
02:34:36,389 --> 02:34:34,640
disappeared in mass at one point and

4077
02:34:39,349 --> 02:34:36,399
then all the people in the tunnel are

4078
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:39,359
gone so like this seems like a pretty

4079
02:34:42,550 --> 02:34:40,560
big

4080
02:34:44,630 --> 02:34:42,560
abduction and i think we're kind of just

4081
02:34:46,469 --> 02:34:44,640
seeing it from the families this one

4082
02:34:48,150 --> 02:34:46,479
family's perspective but i get what

4083
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:48,160
you're saying no listen to the camera

4084
02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:50,880
thing i all my opinions are trash that's

4085
02:34:55,990 --> 02:34:54,080
[\h__\h] brilliant it was a great shot

4086
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:56,000
yeah i'm actually i'm really i'm

4087
02:35:00,630 --> 02:34:58,399
incredibly impressed by that

4088
02:35:02,950 --> 02:35:00,640
and again i look like me and nick both

4089
02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:02,960
real [\h__\h] because he i was setting

4090
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:05,520
it up and nick was egging me on oh

4091
02:35:09,270 --> 02:35:06,720
alright

4092
02:35:11,670 --> 02:35:09,280
yup you're proud of this spiked it um

4093
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:11,680
well let's i mean okay so picked off one

4094
02:35:17,270 --> 02:35:14,160
by one by one um unfortunately they all

4095
02:35:18,950 --> 02:35:17,280
get brought on the ship i honestly okay

4096
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:18,960
here's what here's where i thought the

4097
02:35:23,670 --> 02:35:21,680
movie was going and um

4098
02:35:27,110 --> 02:35:23,680
kind of dark skies did this andrew as

4099
02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:27,120
well i thought the 11 year old was going

4100
02:35:30,389 --> 02:35:28,479
to be part

4101
02:35:32,389 --> 02:35:30,399
of the abduction

4102
02:35:34,710 --> 02:35:32,399
like he was

4103
02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:34,720
maybe an idiot like a plant or something

4104
02:35:39,030 --> 02:35:38,000
like a plant and that's maybe why again

4105
02:35:42,790 --> 02:35:39,040
no

4106
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:42,800
or anything but i'm like maybe that's

4107
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:44,399
why because he's not

4108
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:45,280
um

4109
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:46,479
you know

4110
02:35:50,070 --> 02:35:49,200
he's actually your typical 11 year old

4111
02:35:51,270 --> 02:35:50,080
kid

4112
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:51,280
um he's

4113
02:35:55,429 --> 02:35:53,600
he's doing all these close-ups of like

4114
02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:55,439
insects throughout the film too which i

4115
02:35:58,309 --> 02:35:57,040
thought was real i actually like that i

4116
02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:58,319
love that and i thought that was gonna

4117
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:00,479
lead to something you know like maybe

4118
02:36:05,349 --> 02:36:03,760
he's studying things and um

4119
02:36:07,349 --> 02:36:05,359
it's gonna like turn out to be like one

4120
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:07,359
of them but i don't think that's right

4121
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:11,040
yeah no i think i i i will say um

4122
02:36:15,110 --> 02:36:13,359
ryan this is not to judge how you're

4123
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:15,120
taking this one in um

4124
02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:17,280
but i think if uh

4125
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:18,800
something especially with found footage

4126
02:36:22,150 --> 02:36:20,479
movies and something that this does do

4127
02:36:24,710 --> 02:36:22,160
that makes it at least a little bit of

4128
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:24,720
successful found footage film

4129
02:36:29,830 --> 02:36:27,680
is you can't really expect the kind of i

4130
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:29,840
will call it magic of storytelling to

4131
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:31,280
show up these kind of wonderful

4132
02:36:36,870 --> 02:36:33,200
coincidences and stuff like that to gain

4133
02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:36,880
that true kind of adv um

4134
02:36:39,429 --> 02:36:38,240
uh element

4135
02:36:40,950 --> 02:36:39,439
um

4136
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:40,960
and something that makes it feel like

4137
02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:43,280
real footage it has to i feel like

4138
02:36:46,950 --> 02:36:44,720
at least for me personally it has to

4139
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:46,960
feel a little chaotic it can't give you

4140
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:48,880
something to like oh like look at that

4141
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:50,560
31 because it's gonna come back later

4142
02:36:53,830 --> 02:36:52,080
kind of a stuff like there might be some

4143
02:36:55,110 --> 02:36:53,840
things that rhyme a little bit george

4144
02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:55,120
lucas style

4145
02:37:01,190 --> 02:36:57,920
but it's um

4146
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:01,200
i do think that uh that that stuff was

4147
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:05,680
purely to show um this boy using the way

4148
02:37:10,389 --> 02:37:07,920
that he knows to take in the world to

4149
02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:10,399
just do just that and that was actually

4150
02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:12,000
beautifully done right i really i really

4151
02:37:16,070 --> 02:37:13,200
like that a lot

4152
02:37:17,670 --> 02:37:16,080
yeah um all right well i mean

4153
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:17,680
you know we get to the end of the film

4154
02:37:22,790 --> 02:37:20,080
whole family's been abducted um we get

4155
02:37:24,389 --> 02:37:22,800
this terrified apart apparently maybe i

4156
02:37:26,469 --> 02:37:24,399
don't want to know i don't want to know

4157
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:26,479
it was it was yeah they're real gnarly

4158
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,960
in this it was effective um yeah you

4159
02:37:32,150 --> 02:37:30,880
know oh when he grabs the sister that

4160
02:37:33,750 --> 02:37:32,160
was another moment i love when the alien

4161
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:33,760
like the camera and then the aliens got

4162
02:37:37,990 --> 02:37:36,240
her on the face i was like oh jesus

4163
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:38,000
that's like i think

4164
02:37:41,830 --> 02:37:39,439
that's like the thumbnail of the

4165
02:37:43,190 --> 02:37:41,840
official trailer too i think that was

4166
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:43,200
that was nice

4167
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:46,000
um and then you know i i think we get

4168
02:37:51,190 --> 02:37:49,359
the camera um being held by an alien i

4169
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:51,200
presume um

4170
02:37:54,469 --> 02:37:52,240
kind of

4171
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:54,479
throwing it out the uh garbage chute of

4172
02:38:00,150 --> 02:37:57,280
the ufo and sending it back to earth and

4173
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:00,160
now we have this story um but that's not

4174
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:02,880
it um then it happens again

4175
02:38:08,710 --> 02:38:06,000
then it happens again oh the human human

4176
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:08,720
story just keeps repeating itself but we

4177
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:11,520
do you know the camera lands whatever we

4178
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:13,439
think that's the end then we see some

4179
02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:16,640
guy in a hazmat suit finds the camera um

4180
02:38:21,110 --> 02:38:18,960
i believe this is project blue book as

4181
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:21,120
we talked about um which was not around

4182
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:25,600
in 2014 it stopped in 1969 um but that's

4183
02:38:29,110 --> 02:38:27,280
neither here nor that i thought that was

4184
02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:29,120
cool it's like all right there's going

4185
02:38:34,389 --> 02:38:31,600
to be a cover-up of all this like they

4186
02:38:35,990 --> 02:38:34,399
got the footage back um somehow it

4187
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:36,000
leaked out to the public i think it'd

4188
02:38:40,830 --> 02:38:38,479
say project blue book bio blah blah blah

4189
02:38:44,389 --> 02:38:40,840
and that's what the movie ended up being

4190
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:44,399
um which was pretty cool um but not only

4191
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:45,280
that

4192
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:49,840
get a credit scene like marvel style

4193
02:38:54,070 --> 02:38:51,439
yeah

4194
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:54,080
they found the dad oh

4195
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:56,960
no i did not i was gonna ask if you guys

4196
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:59,520
stayed till oh no i didn't i feel so bad

4197
02:39:02,870 --> 02:39:00,960
i usually stay through credits but i

4198
02:39:04,950 --> 02:39:02,880
like this was the one that i finished

4199
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:04,960
last night and at the end i guess and

4200
02:39:08,870 --> 02:39:06,880
then they used to have her knees

4201
02:39:10,469 --> 02:39:08,880
because no matter what i have to wake up

4202
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:10,479
at 7 00 am these days

4203
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:12,399
oh and i'm sure that's not as early to

4204
02:39:16,309 --> 02:39:13,600
some people

4205
02:39:18,550 --> 02:39:16,319
let's get to the last film soon then

4206
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:18,560
but yeah we get dash cam footage they um

4207
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:21,280
a cop pulls over and finds the dad and i

4208
02:39:25,590 --> 02:39:23,680
think they literally say it's the dad

4209
02:39:28,389 --> 02:39:25,600
yeah so clearly the police know what's

4210
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:28,399
up and they know what's going on

4211
02:39:31,830 --> 02:39:30,160
so i thought that was cool it was kind

4212
02:39:33,990 --> 02:39:31,840
of pretty that was pretty neat i'm mad

4213
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:34,000
i'm mad i missed that and they utilized

4214
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,720
her

4215
02:39:38,710 --> 02:39:36,800
really well too like he does a very good

4216
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:38,720
like close-up on it as they like take

4217
02:39:43,110 --> 02:39:40,560
him away cool

4218
02:39:44,870 --> 02:39:43,120
uh so yeah okay guys let's give it a

4219
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:44,880
rating let's play the video and then

4220
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:46,800
let's dive into our last i'm gonna stand

4221
02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:48,560
by my tent at it i'm gonna stand by my

4222
02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:50,560
ten out of ten he dropped the camera

4223
02:39:54,070 --> 02:39:53,200
from the atmosphere and look look there

4224
02:39:56,550 --> 02:39:54,080
was a

4225
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:56,560
i you know what i had a real i i

4226
02:39:59,750 --> 02:39:59,040
i had a real fun time watching this and

4227
02:40:01,670 --> 02:39:59,760
like

4228
02:40:04,469 --> 02:40:01,680
i think at the end of the day especially

4229
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:04,479
in my advanced stage i'm a level um but

4230
02:40:09,110 --> 02:40:06,399
i is something that i think

4231
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:09,120
is uh that i try to stand by is if i

4232
02:40:12,790 --> 02:40:10,800
enjoy something if i enjoy a piece of

4233
02:40:14,469 --> 02:40:12,800
work a piece of art i don't want to shy

4234
02:40:16,550 --> 02:40:14,479
away from that and i can enjoy something

4235
02:40:18,710 --> 02:40:16,560
and know that it's flawed and i do think

4236
02:40:21,429 --> 02:40:18,720
that there are some flaws in this movie

4237
02:40:23,110 --> 02:40:21,439
but overall i enjoyed my experience

4238
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:23,120
watching it so like you know that's

4239
02:40:25,670 --> 02:40:24,640
that's that's that's where i'm going to

4240
02:40:27,429 --> 02:40:25,680
leave it at

4241
02:40:28,710 --> 02:40:27,439
night um how about you i i was gonna

4242
02:40:30,070 --> 02:40:28,720
give it six out of ten because there

4243
02:40:31,429 --> 02:40:30,080
were things i liked but i thought it was

4244
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:31,439
long i was like this movie could have

4245
02:40:36,230 --> 02:40:34,080
been like 20. i i would i would agree

4246
02:40:38,309 --> 02:40:36,240
with that for almost every movie on this

4247
02:40:40,070 --> 02:40:38,319
list

4248
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:40,080
not not the slumber party one yeah that

4249
02:40:43,910 --> 02:40:41,279
one's very tight

4250
02:40:45,910 --> 02:40:43,920
the other three mcpherson

4251
02:40:48,230 --> 02:40:45,920
biggest fault of found footage films in

4252
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:48,240
general you get too much setup and it

4253
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:50,720
lasts too long i wouldn't even say like

4254
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,800
there were times in the mcpherson table

4255
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:54,319
a couple of times where i was just like

4256
02:40:58,389 --> 02:40:55,760
i think they played they went back to

4257
02:41:00,309 --> 02:40:58,399
the cards like twice maybe good times

4258
02:41:01,510 --> 02:41:00,319
like and like for once i get it but the

4259
02:41:03,510 --> 02:41:01,520
second time i'm like all right and

4260
02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:03,520
sometimes it's run time again ryan i

4261
02:41:06,230 --> 02:41:04,640
learned it's like it's run time you

4262
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:06,240
gotta hit a run time for it to be

4263
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:08,240
considered a feature and like if you're

4264
02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:10,720
like if you're not like 50 minutes is

4265
02:41:14,309 --> 02:41:12,080
like

4266
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:14,319
considered a feature for some people but

4267
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:16,399
if you don't want to get that limit then

4268
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:18,240
like it's a short film or it's a medium

4269
02:41:21,190 --> 02:41:20,160
you can't put it in festivals you can't

4270
02:41:23,910 --> 02:41:21,200
get a

4271
02:41:25,429 --> 02:41:23,920
world wide distribute even 50 minutes

4272
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:25,439
they're like

4273
02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:27,359
a very good point but

4274
02:41:31,670 --> 02:41:29,040
but but

4275
02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:31,680
that shot man that's [\h__\h] cool [\h__\h]

4276
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:33,200
so i'm going to give him

4277
02:41:39,429 --> 02:41:37,269
it's real red

4278
02:41:44,309 --> 02:41:39,439
yeah it's pretty cool i'm going i'm

4279
02:41:47,910 --> 02:41:46,790
come on come on all right fine nine out

4280
02:41:50,070 --> 02:41:47,920
of ten

4281
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:50,080
and that's because we have one of the

4282
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,240
actresses with us tonight which is gonna

4283
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:54,960
be freaking awesome to hear from her um

4284
02:41:58,790 --> 02:41:57,120
i again i thought it was a great movie

4285
02:42:01,670 --> 02:41:58,800
um i really did i thought they did a

4286
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:01,680
good job actors did amazing um and it

4287
02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:07,910
we got to keep that in mind but um guys

4288
02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:11,200
go take a little nap if you need to um

4289
02:42:14,469 --> 02:42:12,399
or coffee

4290
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:14,479
refill and we're gonna end with the

4291
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:17,040
fourth kind but here is we have jillian

4292
02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:19,520
claire who played jillian in the movie

4293
02:42:22,870 --> 02:42:21,439
alien abduction so we're gonna hear from

4294
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:22,880
her now

4295
02:42:27,269 --> 02:42:24,560
thanks so much for having me on the show

4296
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:27,279
today i am jillian claire i'm from alien

4297
02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:29,920
abduction and i play jillian in the

4298
02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:30,960
movie

4299
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:33,040
uh fun fact that was not written that

4300
02:42:37,750 --> 02:42:35,760
way the character names were changed

4301
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:37,760
after we were all cast my original

4302
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:40,880
character's name was lisa

4303
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:43,120
and i don't think i look like elisa but

4304
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:45,520
they did that mostly because um

4305
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:47,359
it was a found footage movie which meant

4306
02:42:50,389 --> 02:42:48,240
that

4307
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:50,399
there would be times where we would film

4308
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:52,080
three scenes as one scene because there

4309
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:54,399
wasn't a clear cut and the director

4310
02:42:57,349 --> 02:42:56,160
really wanted us to feel super

4311
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:57,359
comfortable

4312
02:43:00,389 --> 02:42:58,560
and

4313
02:43:02,630 --> 02:43:00,399
really be able to sink into our roles

4314
02:43:05,750 --> 02:43:02,640
and so by calling each other our real

4315
02:43:09,269 --> 02:43:05,760
names it really felt a lot more real

4316
02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:09,279
and it was a lot easier to be able to um

4317
02:43:14,309 --> 02:43:11,760
improv in between the scenes when we

4318
02:43:15,670 --> 02:43:14,319
kind of had to get from point a to point

4319
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:15,680
b without

4320
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:17,520
making it strange or making it feel

4321
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:18,640
awkward

4322
02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:20,399
so that was really cool

4323
02:43:24,710 --> 02:43:22,640
um some fun things from set let's see

4324
02:43:27,510 --> 02:43:24,720
well there's that that point in the

4325
02:43:29,269 --> 02:43:27,520
movie where we all go like under the

4326
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:29,279
cabin to hide

4327
02:43:34,150 --> 02:43:32,080
and i think this was you know one of it

4328
02:43:36,870 --> 02:43:34,160
was one of our many overnights and it

4329
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:36,880
was very early in the morning and i was

4330
02:43:41,269 --> 02:43:40,240
very tired and when i went to go

4331
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:41,279
under

4332
02:43:45,910 --> 02:43:43,920
i actually hit the side of it and i

4333
02:43:48,790 --> 02:43:45,920
ended up with the

4334
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:48,800
biggest bruise ever on my thigh

4335
02:43:53,830 --> 02:43:51,200
and we all laughed about it for for

4336
02:43:57,190 --> 02:43:53,840
hours it was it was pretty good uh

4337
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:57,200
what's another story oh when um

4338
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,040
the first time we see the aliens

4339
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:01,840
so the director hadn't shown us photos

4340
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:04,160
of the aliens or anything

4341
02:44:08,950 --> 02:44:06,000
about them at all he kind of wanted it

4342
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:08,960
to be a surprise

4343
02:44:15,750 --> 02:44:11,520
but see i don't do well

4344
02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:15,760
with surprises and um

4345
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:17,920
scary stuff i laugh

4346
02:44:22,870 --> 02:44:19,200
so

4347
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:22,880
crows just hit all of all of us in the

4348
02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:25,600
car and we get out and we see the alien

4349
02:44:30,070 --> 02:44:28,080
from the distance and

4350
02:44:32,469 --> 02:44:30,080
i remember turning around and it took

4351
02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,479
everything in me not to just burst out

4352
02:44:37,190 --> 02:44:35,040
laughing and thank god he called caught

4353
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:37,200
like just a few seconds later because

4354
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:39,040
then i burst out and laughter and i was

4355
02:44:43,990 --> 02:44:41,040
like i'm so sorry this is just how i

4356
02:44:46,150 --> 02:44:44,000
process things um this is

4357
02:44:47,830 --> 02:44:46,160
look i'm i'm really sorry but it was

4358
02:44:49,830 --> 02:44:47,840
scary seeing it for the first time and

4359
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:49,840
so my brain just automatically went into

4360
02:44:52,950 --> 02:44:52,000
fight or flight mode which meant that i

4361
02:44:54,710 --> 02:44:52,960
was

4362
02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:54,720
laughing

4363
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:56,640
but it was such a great film to to make

4364
02:45:01,030 --> 02:44:58,800
you know it was my first time traveling

4365
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:01,040
alone for a job i was only 19 when we

4366
02:45:04,150 --> 02:45:02,800
shot the film and we did go to north

4367
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:04,160
carolina and

4368
02:45:08,870 --> 02:45:06,960
there definitely was um

4369
02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:08,880
maybe a sighting of the brown mountain

4370
02:45:14,950 --> 02:45:11,040
lights maybe we think we might have seen

4371
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:14,960
them which is pretty uh scary and crazy

4372
02:45:19,590 --> 02:45:16,800
uh but there was also some like ghosty

4373
02:45:20,710 --> 02:45:19,600
stories going on it was definitely a

4374
02:45:23,110 --> 02:45:20,720
wild

4375
02:45:24,469 --> 02:45:23,120
experience um

4376
02:45:25,990 --> 02:45:24,479
but you know i'm just so thankful that

4377
02:45:27,830 --> 02:45:26,000
we were able to do the film i've had

4378
02:45:28,790 --> 02:45:27,840
some really great lifelong connections

4379
02:45:30,309 --> 02:45:28,800
from it

4380
02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:30,319
peter who plays my dad in the movie

4381
02:45:33,830 --> 02:45:32,080
ended up playing my dad in another film

4382
02:45:35,910 --> 02:45:33,840
that i produced in starting called

4383
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:35,920
pretty broken and i've stayed in close

4384
02:45:39,750 --> 02:45:37,760
contact with riley over the years who

4385
02:45:41,990 --> 02:45:39,760
played my little brother and

4386
02:45:43,910 --> 02:45:42,000
our awesome sound guy dan he and i still

4387
02:45:46,550 --> 02:45:43,920
talk non-stop

4388
02:45:47,910 --> 02:45:46,560
so it really was a fantastic film to be

4389
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:47,920
a part of

4390
02:45:53,910 --> 02:45:51,840
i haven't watched it in a very long time

4391
02:45:55,590 --> 02:45:53,920
i just i have a thing about watching

4392
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:55,600
myself sometimes i'm okay with it and

4393
02:45:58,309 --> 02:45:57,279
sometimes i'm not it kind of just

4394
02:46:00,469 --> 02:45:58,319
depends on the mood but i haven't

4395
02:46:03,429 --> 02:46:00,479
watched in a really long time so maybe i

4396
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:03,439
need to to watch it again i do think

4397
02:46:06,550 --> 02:46:04,240
that

4398
02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:06,560
it's one of um

4399
02:46:10,389 --> 02:46:08,560
one of the more interesting ways to

4400
02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:10,399
convince an audience that you would keep

4401
02:46:14,550 --> 02:46:13,680
filming during something so catastrophic

4402
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:14,560
uh

4403
02:46:21,190 --> 02:46:16,960
you know having riley have autism in the

4404
02:46:23,269 --> 02:46:21,200
film as and filming as the way of

4405
02:46:25,670 --> 02:46:23,279
processing information i think that was

4406
02:46:28,950 --> 02:46:25,680
a really inventive way to do it

4407
02:46:30,309 --> 02:46:28,960
um and i think it was

4408
02:46:32,309 --> 02:46:30,319
it was really cool the way it was done

4409
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:32,319
and you know our dp luke guys builder he

4410
02:46:36,150 --> 02:46:33,920
was incredible

4411
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:36,160
he you know has worked on borat and all

4412
02:46:40,230 --> 02:46:39,040
these amazing other movies um so the way

4413
02:46:42,309 --> 02:46:40,240
it was filmed was really cool and i

4414
02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,319
think that's kind of what separated

4415
02:46:46,710 --> 02:46:44,240
our found footage film from others

4416
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:46,720
because i feel like it actually provided

4417
02:47:01,030 --> 02:46:47,680
a

4418
02:47:01,750 --> 02:47:01,040
definitely

4419
02:47:16,790 --> 02:47:01,760
a

4420
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:16,800
more

4421
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:20,880
and alien abductions i mean you know

4422
02:47:24,630 --> 02:47:22,880
who knows maybe

4423
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:24,640
i don't i don't discount anything

4424
02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:26,000
anymore

4425
02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:30,000
the universe is wide and and big and

4426
02:47:34,389 --> 02:47:32,240
who knows what the heck's out there and

4427
02:47:36,630 --> 02:47:34,399
what is going on so sure

4428
02:47:37,990 --> 02:47:36,640
i i believe that abductions could exist

4429
02:47:40,389 --> 02:47:38,000
but i definitely believe that there are

4430
02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:40,399
other life forms on other planets

4431
02:47:47,349 --> 02:47:43,120
anyway thank you so much ryan and um

4432
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:48,550
awesome

4433
02:47:52,389 --> 02:47:50,399
so that was julian claire joining us

4434
02:47:54,469 --> 02:47:52,399
from alien abduction thank you to

4435
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:54,479
jillian for doing that thank you to dean

4436
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:56,479
thank you to jason as well for sending

4437
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:58,399
in those videos and thank you nick for

4438
02:48:04,790 --> 02:48:00,720
sticking with me my man and andrew he's

4439
02:48:08,710 --> 02:48:06,550
we're on our last film guys can you

4440
02:48:10,230 --> 02:48:08,720
believe it we made it we made it um

4441
02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:10,240
thank you to everyone watching for

4442
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:12,160
listening um

4443
02:48:17,750 --> 02:48:14,880
let's see here yeah

4444
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:17,760
i have two things to share before um we

4445
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:20,160
we move on to the last film uh i just

4446
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:22,240
heard from bryce johnson he's the host

4447
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:25,040
of the bigfoot collectors club podcast

4448
02:48:31,110 --> 02:48:28,000
he also is starring right now in

4449
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:31,120
american horror story playing neil

4450
02:48:36,469 --> 02:48:34,080
armstrong um so for those who don't know

4451
02:48:37,349 --> 02:48:36,479
american horror story is doing like half

4452
02:48:39,910 --> 02:48:37,359
of their

4453
02:48:42,550 --> 02:48:39,920
series this year about aliens in alien

4454
02:48:44,550 --> 02:48:42,560
abduction and stuff like that and he is

4455
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:44,560
starring as neil armstrong so he sends

4456
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:46,800
his best um he he caught a little of the

4457
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:48,880
live stream tonight so thank you bryce

4458
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:50,880
thanks for shouting this out man one

4459
02:48:54,070 --> 02:48:52,319
more shout out

4460
02:48:56,710 --> 02:48:54,080
yeah absolutely man playing neil

4461
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:56,720
armstrong ugh i can only wish can only

4462
02:49:03,429 --> 02:48:59,760
wish um we have one more shout out

4463
02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:03,439
we have um charlotte milchard who played

4464
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:05,920
abby in the fourth kind

4465
02:49:11,830 --> 02:49:08,560
oh she played the

4466
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:11,840
real version of abby um which we'll get

4467
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:14,800
to but she was not able to unfortunately

4468
02:49:17,990 --> 02:49:16,399
send us a voice message but she did

4469
02:49:19,750 --> 02:49:18,000
wanted to say thank you for reviewing

4470
02:49:21,030 --> 02:49:19,760
the film i can't wait to hear what you

4471
02:49:22,950 --> 02:49:21,040
guys say and i told her we're going to

4472
02:49:26,150 --> 02:49:22,960
be brutally honest and she's ready for

4473
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:26,160
it so um let's do it let's move to the

4474
02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:28,720
fourth kind from 2009 written by terry

4475
02:49:38,150 --> 02:49:36,070
me

4476
02:49:40,389 --> 02:49:38,160
yeah yeah perfect at least that's what i

4477
02:49:43,590 --> 02:49:40,399
had found cool and starring mila

4478
02:49:44,469 --> 02:49:43,600
yokovich elias cotias are

4479
02:49:48,630 --> 02:49:44,479
uh

4480
02:49:52,309 --> 02:49:48,640
casey from teenage mutant ninja turtles

4481
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:52,319
um man what a stack cast for this

4482
02:49:56,790 --> 02:49:53,359
i wrote

4483
02:49:58,550 --> 02:49:56,800
good cast yeah yeah like and we'll talk

4484
02:50:00,630 --> 02:49:58,560
about that i don't think the acting was

4485
02:50:02,630 --> 02:50:00,640
the issue at all with this video

4486
02:50:05,190 --> 02:50:02,640
i don't think so either let's do a quick

4487
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:05,200
synopsis for everyone out there um

4488
02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:06,960
thriller involving an ongoing unsolved

4489
02:50:11,269 --> 02:50:09,279
mystery in alaska known alaska to be

4490
02:50:13,269 --> 02:50:11,279
specific um where one town has seen an

4491
02:50:15,269 --> 02:50:13,279
extraordinary number of unexplained

4492
02:50:16,950 --> 02:50:15,279
disappearances during the past 40 years

4493
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:16,960
and there are accusations of a federal

4494
02:50:21,670 --> 02:50:20,080
cover-up dealing with alien abductions

4495
02:50:23,830 --> 02:50:21,680
now um

4496
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:23,840
before we go any further fourth kind i

4497
02:50:27,269 --> 02:50:25,200
just want to go through that really

4498
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:27,279
quick that is the close encounter scale

4499
02:50:30,790 --> 02:50:29,120
that was created by j allen heineck the

4500
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:30,800
astronomer we talked about from project

4501
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:32,960
blue book you know you got first kind

4502
02:50:37,590 --> 02:50:35,040
lights in the sky second you might see a

4503
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:37,600
craft third might see beans in a craft

4504
02:50:41,269 --> 02:50:40,160
fourth straight on contact and abduction

4505
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:41,279
so that's what we're getting with the

4506
02:50:46,710 --> 02:50:44,560
fourth kind um so yeah initial thoughts

4507
02:50:47,990 --> 02:50:46,720
guys had you heard of this movie did you

4508
02:50:48,830 --> 02:50:48,000
know any of the backstory because

4509
02:50:51,030 --> 02:50:48,840
there's some

4510
02:50:55,030 --> 02:50:51,040
controversy i remember when it came out

4511
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:55,040
i purposely only looked a little i

4512
02:51:00,309 --> 02:50:58,160
when i started it i i had not looked for

4513
02:51:03,269 --> 02:51:00,319
anything there was a moment

4514
02:51:06,230 --> 02:51:03,279
in the beginning of the film um

4515
02:51:08,230 --> 02:51:06,240
where i felt the need to

4516
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:08,240
pause it and see what was going on here

4517
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:11,200
because um

4518
02:51:15,349 --> 02:51:13,760
i felt like there was something

4519
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:15,359
not that i was getting hoodwinked

4520
02:51:18,630 --> 02:51:17,680
because i know it's a movie but there is

4521
02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:18,640
this

4522
02:51:23,590 --> 02:51:21,920
movie starts with mila yokovich

4523
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:23,600
coming out

4524
02:51:27,590 --> 02:51:25,040
and they're doing this thing where the

4525
02:51:30,550 --> 02:51:27,600
trees are spinning behind her and she's

4526
02:51:31,910 --> 02:51:30,560
basically saying from what i remember

4527
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:31,920
and i was going gonna rewatch it but i

4528
02:51:35,830 --> 02:51:33,520
have six months

4529
02:51:37,349 --> 02:51:35,840
year old six month year old twins um so

4530
02:51:40,150 --> 02:51:37,359
i didn't have time to rewatch i got to

4531
02:51:40,950 --> 02:51:40,160
watch it once and that was a blessing um

4532
02:51:43,269 --> 02:51:40,960
but

4533
02:51:45,510 --> 02:51:43,279
she is

4534
02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:45,520
as herself

4535
02:51:49,910 --> 02:51:46,800
telling us

4536
02:51:51,110 --> 02:51:49,920
that she is about to play a character

4537
02:51:51,990 --> 02:51:51,120
and play a

4538
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:52,000
um

4539
02:51:56,950 --> 02:51:54,399
in a dramatization yeah

4540
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:56,960
of real events that took place so that

4541
02:51:59,910 --> 02:51:59,040
she's playing a real person the whole

4542
02:52:03,269 --> 02:51:59,920
time

4543
02:52:08,870 --> 02:52:05,110
[\h__\h] horseshit

4544
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:08,880
about um you decide what's real and

4545
02:52:13,030 --> 02:52:11,120
what's not real it reminds me of

4546
02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:13,040
jonathan franks remember beyond belief

4547
02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:16,000
yeah factor fiction you decide what's

4548
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:17,120
real

4549
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:18,160
so

4550
02:52:21,190 --> 02:52:19,840
like it's almost like letting themselves

4551
02:52:22,870 --> 02:52:21,200
off the hook and i was like oh what a

4552
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:22,880
weird way to i was like i guess they're

4553
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:24,800
playing the ufo thing

4554
02:52:28,790 --> 02:52:26,160
but then

4555
02:52:31,429 --> 02:52:28,800
they cut to

4556
02:52:33,750 --> 02:52:31,439
the real footage

4557
02:52:35,510 --> 02:52:33,760
which is a woman the young

4558
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:35,520
lady who or

4559
02:52:39,990 --> 02:52:38,399
the the person who

4560
02:52:42,309 --> 02:52:40,000
charlotte

4561
02:52:43,750 --> 02:52:42,319
who plays abigail the uh yes it is

4562
02:52:45,910 --> 02:52:43,760
charlotte

4563
02:52:48,469 --> 02:52:45,920
done up

4564
02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:48,479
to look disheveled

4565
02:52:52,950 --> 02:52:50,880
like i think anybody who has seen five

4566
02:52:54,150 --> 02:52:52,960
movies in their life could

4567
02:52:58,070 --> 02:52:54,160
hopefully

4568
02:53:00,150 --> 02:52:58,080
realize that that was not real footage

4569
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:00,160
however there are plenty of people who

4570
02:53:05,830 --> 02:53:02,640
are not able to do that so well

4571
02:53:07,990 --> 02:53:05,840
and especially not when you as a film

4572
02:53:10,070 --> 02:53:08,000
break the fourth wall to present

4573
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:10,080
yourself

4574
02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:11,439
and say that you're about to play

4575
02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:13,439
something that's real and then have this

4576
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:15,279
footage go back to back the whole time

4577
02:53:21,429 --> 02:53:18,080
there was there was a lot about that

4578
02:53:23,990 --> 02:53:21,439
and i this could be like and expect aim

4579
02:53:26,870 --> 02:53:24,000
to use a real place

4580
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:26,880
they told a fake story about a real

4581
02:53:31,510 --> 02:53:28,880
place that is really dealing with

4582
02:53:34,070 --> 02:53:31,520
disappearances instead they have now

4583
02:53:37,110 --> 02:53:34,080
taken that and used it to put their own

4584
02:53:39,110 --> 02:53:37,120
narrative onto whether that is in a big

4585
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:39,120
like a documentary movie or a movie like

4586
02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:40,479
this that is pretending to be a

4587
02:53:45,030 --> 02:53:42,960
documentary but also pretending to be a

4588
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:45,040
real movie there are things that i just

4589
02:53:48,710 --> 02:53:46,800
found especially and ryan we've talked

4590
02:53:50,630 --> 02:53:48,720
about this before and this is not every

4591
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:50,640
case but there and i think you would

4592
02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:52,399
agree with this there are people out

4593
02:53:55,349 --> 02:53:54,160
there

4594
02:53:58,389 --> 02:53:55,359
who

4595
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:58,399
um when it comes to ufos and abduction

4596
02:54:01,910 --> 02:54:00,399
theory and things like that who

4597
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:01,920
sometimes aren't the most mentally

4598
02:54:06,150 --> 02:54:03,680
stable

4599
02:54:08,469 --> 02:54:06,160
yeah absolutely and when they are

4600
02:54:10,469 --> 02:54:08,479
presented with stuff like this

4601
02:54:12,710 --> 02:54:10,479
i feel like there is an opportunity for

4602
02:54:14,870 --> 02:54:12,720
them to and i believe this happened

4603
02:54:17,830 --> 02:54:14,880
bother the people of gnome alaska who

4604
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:17,840
are already dealing with their own grief

4605
02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:20,000
and pain over what's going on to try to

4606
02:54:25,349 --> 02:54:22,080
force this new narrative on there i was

4607
02:54:27,429 --> 02:54:25,359
really floored that this movie used that

4608
02:54:30,230 --> 02:54:27,439
and then doubles down on it at the end

4609
02:54:32,950 --> 02:54:30,240
right same stupid swirly trees thing i

4610
02:54:35,110 --> 02:54:32,960
honestly and i'll be 100 honest i was

4611
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:35,120
watching through gritted teeth for most

4612
02:54:40,389 --> 02:54:36,640
of the movie and it was it was kind of

4613
02:54:42,630 --> 02:54:40,399
hard for me to focus or care about it

4614
02:54:45,190 --> 02:54:42,640
for the duration

4615
02:54:47,590 --> 02:54:45,200
because of that opening

4616
02:54:50,790 --> 02:54:47,600
i want to call it a lie like this kind

4617
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:50,800
of weird this lie to the audience

4618
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:52,720
and i'm sure they could try to be like i

4619
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,720
i like who knows maybe those bumpers

4620
02:54:57,510 --> 02:54:56,319
were added after the fact because they

4621
02:55:00,070 --> 02:54:57,520
were like we got to put something out

4622
02:55:02,630 --> 02:55:00,080
there but i think what they added and or

4623
02:55:04,870 --> 02:55:02,640
maybe that was the because not only is

4624
02:55:07,190 --> 02:55:04,880
she sitting down in foot and this

4625
02:55:08,790 --> 02:55:07,200
becomes like a uh thing throughout is

4626
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,800
that this found footage whatever you

4627
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:10,800
want to call it like those are the best

4628
02:55:15,030 --> 02:55:13,439
framed dash cam footages like that's the

4629
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:15,040
best frame dash cam footage i've ever

4630
02:55:19,429 --> 02:55:17,279
seen in my life pretty damn good yeah

4631
02:55:21,910 --> 02:55:19,439
yeah and like she's sitting down with

4632
02:55:24,309 --> 02:55:21,920
the director of the movie who is also

4633
02:55:27,030 --> 02:55:24,319
breaking the fourth wall and is now

4634
02:55:30,150 --> 02:55:27,040
placing himself inside of the story

4635
02:55:31,910 --> 02:55:30,160
and trying to it's it's a it's it's i

4636
02:55:33,510 --> 02:55:31,920
don't know i think when it comes to this

4637
02:55:35,590 --> 02:55:33,520
community who

4638
02:55:37,830 --> 02:55:35,600
grab onto this stuff who thought the

4639
02:55:40,150 --> 02:55:37,840
mcpherson tape was real

4640
02:55:42,790 --> 02:55:40,160
when it comes to those kind of people

4641
02:55:45,590 --> 02:55:42,800
you can't do [\h__\h] like this

4642
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:45,600
i really think that like i i like and

4643
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:47,760
especially we've seen now

4644
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:49,600
if the last year and a half has taught

4645
02:55:53,750 --> 02:55:51,680
us anything it's that some people will

4646
02:55:55,590 --> 02:55:53,760
believe anything if they're told in a

4647
02:55:57,030 --> 02:55:55,600
certain way and i just think the way

4648
02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:57,040
that they did this

4649
02:56:02,710 --> 02:56:00,720
um was a little irresponsible and i i i

4650
02:56:04,309 --> 02:56:02,720
the director has gone on to do a lot of

4651
02:56:06,309 --> 02:56:04,319
amazing things and the movie looks

4652
02:56:09,990 --> 02:56:06,319
beautiful and there's great acting in it

4653
02:56:12,469 --> 02:56:10,000
but the overall thing and the plot makes

4654
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:12,479
not a ton of sense we'll get there yeah

4655
02:56:16,790 --> 02:56:15,120
but but yeah i just thought that the way

4656
02:56:18,790 --> 02:56:16,800
that they were serving us this because

4657
02:56:21,349 --> 02:56:18,800
they go back and forth they'll do the

4658
02:56:24,469 --> 02:56:21,359
real footage right up against the fake

4659
02:56:27,190 --> 02:56:24,479
footage and it gets as real as showing

4660
02:56:28,950 --> 02:56:27,200
dash cam footage of a man murdering his

4661
02:56:30,309 --> 02:56:28,960
wife and then himself

4662
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,319
like you know what i mean like they're

4663
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:32,080
they're trying to portray these shocking

4664
02:56:36,469 --> 02:56:34,560
moments and act like they're do and some

4665
02:56:39,190 --> 02:56:36,479
of it is more convincing than others and

4666
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:39,200
i think that's a real problem like this

4667
02:56:43,349 --> 02:56:41,439
was the first time that i've ever seen

4668
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:43,359
like a found footage movie where i'm

4669
02:56:48,150 --> 02:56:45,200
just like you guys could really do some

4670
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:48,160
damage with this like what was the idea

4671
02:56:51,910 --> 02:56:49,600
well that's a great point because it's

4672
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:51,920
not a found footage movie right right

4673
02:56:54,550 --> 02:56:53,439
right that's the whole point because i

4674
02:56:56,309 --> 02:56:54,560
even was watching to not do that

4675
02:56:58,230 --> 02:56:56,319
research and i was like oh [\h__\h] like i

4676
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:58,240
had seen it right forgotten i watched

4677
02:57:01,429 --> 02:57:00,479
this movie i was like oh

4678
02:57:04,389 --> 02:57:01,439
is this

4679
02:57:06,469 --> 02:57:04,399
real and then i quickly was like no it's

4680
02:57:08,309 --> 02:57:06,479
not but that's the problem right because

4681
02:57:10,070 --> 02:57:08,319
when you present something like this

4682
02:57:11,110 --> 02:57:10,080
especially if it targets

4683
02:57:12,630 --> 02:57:11,120
i mean it's mainstream right it's

4684
02:57:15,349 --> 02:57:12,640
totally mainstream

4685
02:57:17,349 --> 02:57:15,359
universe russell put this movie out like

4686
02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:17,359
the thing i remember about this movie is

4687
02:57:21,429 --> 02:57:19,279
just that it was being released i would

4688
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:21,439
have been in school at that time i i and

4689
02:57:25,190 --> 02:57:23,200
i was like in new york no like fresh out

4690
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:25,200
of school and in the city and not seeing

4691
02:57:28,389 --> 02:57:26,160
a lot of movies because i didn't have

4692
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:28,399
money but i remember it was a yokovich

4693
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:29,680
movie like it gets i remember the

4694
02:57:34,150 --> 02:57:32,319
posters i remember that kind of stuff

4695
02:57:35,670 --> 02:57:34,160
so no but you but you bring up a really

4696
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:35,680
good point when you make a movie like

4697
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:38,080
this right that is that in some ways is

4698
02:57:42,389 --> 02:57:40,640
big picture but it's also

4699
02:57:44,150 --> 02:57:42,399
could be targeted to a very specific

4700
02:57:45,830 --> 02:57:44,160
group of people that like and we've seen

4701
02:57:49,750 --> 02:57:45,840
like there's ancient aliens how many

4702
02:57:53,670 --> 02:57:49,760
alien shows are there literally in like

4703
02:57:55,110 --> 02:57:53,680
it's like crime dramas it's like and so

4704
02:57:56,309 --> 02:57:55,120
to not like

4705
02:57:57,510 --> 02:57:56,319
if you're gonna

4706
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:57,520
hmm

4707
02:58:00,550 --> 02:57:58,800
you want to make the movie and you want

4708
02:58:02,150 --> 02:58:00,560
to make it feel realistic like you want

4709
02:58:04,630 --> 02:58:02,160
to do that side by side stuff and make

4710
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:04,640
it feel real feel realistic i can make

4711
02:58:08,389 --> 02:58:06,399
an artistic argument for that right that

4712
02:58:11,750 --> 02:58:08,399
that's the story you're telling but then

4713
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:13,429
you make it feel like it is actually

4714
02:58:17,990 --> 02:58:15,520
real and like people can bite into that

4715
02:58:18,870 --> 02:58:18,000
especially when you are hoping beyond

4716
02:58:21,030 --> 02:58:18,880
hope

4717
02:58:22,630 --> 02:58:21,040
to have proof of this thing to share

4718
02:58:24,309 --> 02:58:22,640
with people because everyone excuse me

4719
02:58:26,150 --> 02:58:24,319
it's not bad but like people look at

4720
02:58:27,910 --> 02:58:26,160
like the crazy alien guy from history

4721
02:58:30,309 --> 02:58:27,920
channel you're like

4722
02:58:32,469 --> 02:58:30,319
that guy's a gift um

4723
02:58:37,110 --> 02:58:32,479
right and so yeah i would argue he's a

4724
02:58:39,910 --> 02:58:38,070
um

4725
02:58:41,990 --> 02:58:39,920
it's true it's true it's a valid

4726
02:58:43,830 --> 02:58:42,000
argument

4727
02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:43,840
but no but i think you're right andrew

4728
02:58:47,429 --> 02:58:46,080
it really is like how do what is what's

4729
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:47,439
your artistic version what was your

4730
02:58:50,630 --> 02:58:49,279
reasoning for that assignment was hoping

4731
02:58:52,389 --> 02:58:50,640
you'd make more money but then what does

4732
02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:52,399
that do to people

4733
02:58:56,389 --> 02:58:54,080
um and then because they're creating

4734
02:58:57,910 --> 02:58:56,399
their own story they can they can pick

4735
02:58:59,910 --> 02:58:57,920
and choose

4736
02:59:02,070 --> 02:58:59,920
what little things like because then

4737
02:59:03,590 --> 02:59:02,080
they can give people like oh

4738
02:59:04,790 --> 02:59:03,600
here's this thing that you've read about

4739
02:59:06,389 --> 02:59:04,800
in another story so i'm going to

4740
02:59:07,990 --> 02:59:06,399
validate this further for you there's

4741
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:08,000
this phenomenon that happens like

4742
02:59:11,750 --> 02:59:09,840
because they're pulling from sources of

4743
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,760
things that have already i believe

4744
02:59:16,230 --> 02:59:13,760
almost everything right ryan

4745
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:16,240
in this is feels like something that was

4746
02:59:19,990 --> 02:59:18,000
from actual cases

4747
02:59:22,150 --> 02:59:20,000
like oh yeah i mean yeah we get to the

4748
02:59:23,750 --> 02:59:22,160
therapy sessions with these hypnotic

4749
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:23,760
regressions like

4750
02:59:28,870 --> 02:59:26,720
a lot of it rang true of um and there's

4751
02:59:32,230 --> 02:59:28,880
actual audio tapes out there of therapy

4752
02:59:35,190 --> 02:59:32,240
sessions right abductees um i i would

4753
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:35,200
urge any of you to go to youtube right

4754
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:38,160
now and uh look for betty and barney

4755
02:59:44,070 --> 02:59:41,600
hill abduction sessions uh this was a

4756
02:59:47,030 --> 02:59:44,080
interracial couple in the 50s who

4757
02:59:47,830 --> 02:59:47,040
have been abducted by aliens and um

4758
02:59:50,469 --> 02:59:47,840
they

4759
02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:50,479
their audio of their regressions are

4760
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:54,240
available and they are effing terrifying

4761
03:00:02,790 --> 03:00:01,269
missing time um a lot of the tropes we

4762
03:00:04,790 --> 03:00:02,800
see played out in this is kind of what

4763
03:00:06,309 --> 03:00:04,800
this couple experienced back and they

4764
03:00:09,110 --> 03:00:06,319
were like the first to come forward and

4765
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:09,120
say they were abducted by aliens um so a

4766
03:00:13,349 --> 03:00:11,439
lot of what we know of abduction lore

4767
03:00:15,110 --> 03:00:13,359
stems from this couple in new hampshire

4768
03:00:16,309 --> 03:00:15,120
back in 50s um

4769
03:00:19,910 --> 03:00:16,319
so

4770
03:00:22,630 --> 03:00:19,920
and again like uh that's what rung true

4771
03:00:25,030 --> 03:00:22,640
with me in this film were the um therapy

4772
03:00:27,510 --> 03:00:25,040
sessions in how these people felt and

4773
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:27,520
kind of how they these memories were

4774
03:00:30,870 --> 03:00:30,080
brought back the issue being

4775
03:00:33,110 --> 03:00:30,880
that

4776
03:00:36,150 --> 03:00:33,120
fourth kind tried to do what blair witch

4777
03:00:38,389 --> 03:00:36,160
did well is they put out marketing

4778
03:00:42,950 --> 03:00:38,399
beforehand with like missing posters of

4779
03:00:49,190 --> 03:00:45,910
fourth kind came out with articles

4780
03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:49,200
about missing people oh [\h__\h] um and we

4781
03:00:53,030 --> 03:00:51,040
will get to the controversy that the

4782
03:00:55,190 --> 03:00:53,040
blowback of what happened with that

4783
03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:55,200
later but um

4784
03:01:00,469 --> 03:00:58,160
i don't see again why they had to go the

4785
03:01:03,190 --> 03:01:00,479
the like actual footage

4786
03:01:05,510 --> 03:01:03,200
it would have been a good movie if

4787
03:01:06,790 --> 03:01:05,520
if i was somebody who yeah again like if

4788
03:01:07,590 --> 03:01:06,800
they would have just cut all that stuff

4789
03:01:08,469 --> 03:01:07,600
out

4790
03:01:11,190 --> 03:01:08,479
um

4791
03:01:13,269 --> 03:01:11,200
like if i the way this plays out like if

4792
03:01:16,630 --> 03:01:13,279
i was somebody who

4793
03:01:19,269 --> 03:01:16,640
believed in the ufo phenomena um i

4794
03:01:21,269 --> 03:01:19,279
and like maybe i'm projecting um maybe

4795
03:01:22,710 --> 03:01:21,279
because i'm not somebody that i'm i'm

4796
03:01:26,230 --> 03:01:22,720
overestimating how people feel about

4797
03:01:28,469 --> 03:01:26,240
this i would feel taken advantage of

4798
03:01:30,150 --> 03:01:28,479
i get that that is a huge problem in

4799
03:01:32,790 --> 03:01:30,160
this community is they often feel

4800
03:01:34,550 --> 03:01:32,800
exploited like their their televisions

4801
03:01:36,070 --> 03:01:34,560
through books

4802
03:01:38,469 --> 03:01:36,080
they're taking these things that they

4803
03:01:40,309 --> 03:01:38,479
know exists in in the community and

4804
03:01:41,670 --> 03:01:40,319
they're like just kind of

4805
03:01:42,790 --> 03:01:41,680
like clicking you in the back of the

4806
03:01:44,710 --> 03:01:42,800
neck with it you know what i mean it's

4807
03:01:46,870 --> 03:01:44,720
like here's something for you to

4808
03:01:50,070 --> 03:01:46,880
this is what you can attach to this is

4809
03:01:51,269 --> 03:01:50,080
like not so not only are we already

4810
03:01:52,950 --> 03:01:51,279
telling this thing that you're probably

4811
03:01:54,389 --> 03:01:52,960
going to be interested anyway we're

4812
03:01:55,830 --> 03:01:54,399
saying it's a true story but we're

4813
03:01:57,990 --> 03:01:55,840
saying it's not a true story they're

4814
03:02:00,710 --> 03:01:58,000
using the same kind of language that i

4815
03:02:03,750 --> 03:02:00,720
feels gets you feel gets used by some of

4816
03:02:04,950 --> 03:02:03,760
the um some like sometimes like not less

4817
03:02:06,950 --> 03:02:04,960
than say like

4818
03:02:08,550 --> 03:02:06,960
like the you know truth is out there

4819
03:02:09,990 --> 03:02:08,560
always trying to find what's real what's

4820
03:02:11,429 --> 03:02:10,000
true all that kind of stuff like they're

4821
03:02:12,630 --> 03:02:11,439
using these buzzwords they're doing all

4822
03:02:15,910 --> 03:02:12,640
these things

4823
03:02:17,030 --> 03:02:15,920
and and telling a lie like and not in a

4824
03:02:18,870 --> 03:02:17,040
fun

4825
03:02:20,710 --> 03:02:18,880
[\h__\h] like you know blair witch did

4826
03:02:23,349 --> 03:02:20,720
the online stuff and that is a different

4827
03:02:24,870 --> 03:02:23,359
kind of a thing yeah i i believe like

4828
03:02:27,429 --> 03:02:24,880
with this

4829
03:02:28,790 --> 03:02:27,439
something about how

4830
03:02:32,389 --> 03:02:28,800
polished

4831
03:02:34,630 --> 03:02:32,399
and how like big budget it is makes it

4832
03:02:37,429 --> 03:02:34,640
worse something about that

4833
03:02:40,389 --> 03:02:37,439
makes it feel way more like i'm like why

4834
03:02:42,790 --> 03:02:40,399
i i it feels like you're trying to

4835
03:02:43,990 --> 03:02:42,800
coerce a reaction out of me

4836
03:02:46,710 --> 03:02:44,000
i don't know it's

4837
03:02:47,510 --> 03:02:46,720
but not in a it's manipulative right yes

4838
03:02:48,710 --> 03:02:47,520
i mean

4839
03:02:50,710 --> 03:02:48,720
there's some glare witch right no one

4840
03:02:53,190 --> 03:02:50,720
[\h__\h] knew who was in blair witch

4841
03:02:55,510 --> 03:02:53,200
no one right knew those actors and this

4842
03:02:57,429 --> 03:02:55,520
movie starts it starts with a very

4843
03:02:58,550 --> 03:02:57,439
well-known actor being like yo this is

4844
03:03:02,710 --> 03:02:58,560
real

4845
03:03:04,950 --> 03:03:02,720
yeah and i'm gonna i'm gonna mimic that

4846
03:03:06,389 --> 03:03:04,960
act like whoever's whichever actor is

4847
03:03:07,750 --> 03:03:06,399
doing who's ever character like they're

4848
03:03:09,990 --> 03:03:07,760
gonna mimic each other right they're

4849
03:03:10,870 --> 03:03:10,000
gonna mirror each other like an actress

4850
03:03:12,550 --> 03:03:10,880
would do

4851
03:03:14,630 --> 03:03:12,560
playing a real person and it sets it up

4852
03:03:16,469 --> 03:03:14,640
in such a way that like

4853
03:03:18,950 --> 03:03:16,479
even even like andrew you said like even

4854
03:03:20,870 --> 03:03:18,960
me i was like wait [\h__\h] is this wait no

4855
03:03:22,469 --> 03:03:20,880
it's not but wait

4856
03:03:24,710 --> 03:03:22,479
i could just scramble my mind a little

4857
03:03:26,950 --> 03:03:24,720
bit because the both those actresses are

4858
03:03:28,710 --> 03:03:26,960
[\h__\h] talented they were great yeah

4859
03:03:29,830 --> 03:03:28,720
where's blair which i know those kids i

4860
03:03:31,830 --> 03:03:29,840
thought was real because i was a kid and

4861
03:03:34,550 --> 03:03:31,840
then i was like oh it's not real

4862
03:03:35,750 --> 03:03:34,560
okay yep great cool that's cool oh she's

4863
03:03:38,150 --> 03:03:35,760
almost like

4864
03:03:40,469 --> 03:03:38,160
cool this is what i i found with this

4865
03:03:43,349 --> 03:03:40,479
film is they tried so hard to be blair

4866
03:03:46,070 --> 03:03:43,359
witch like some 20 something years later

4867
03:03:48,389 --> 03:03:46,080
and it's like we we're smarter than that

4868
03:03:49,429 --> 03:03:48,399
now audiences like you're you're being

4869
03:03:51,510 --> 03:03:49,439
so

4870
03:03:53,750 --> 03:03:51,520
condescending to the audience you think

4871
03:03:55,110 --> 03:03:53,760
is gonna watch this no one for a second

4872
03:03:57,670 --> 03:03:55,120
is going to believe this but like andrew

4873
03:03:59,830 --> 03:03:57,680
said some people did i still be like

4874
03:04:02,150 --> 03:03:59,840
dude i thought that archive footage was

4875
03:04:03,910 --> 03:04:02,160
real and i get it i understand that and

4876
03:04:05,349 --> 03:04:03,920
then at the end

4877
03:04:07,110 --> 03:04:05,359
and like there have been fictional

4878
03:04:09,190 --> 03:04:07,120
movies that have done this too but then

4879
03:04:11,269 --> 03:04:09,200
they even add that sense of validity

4880
03:04:13,110 --> 03:04:11,279
it's like oh this person

4881
03:04:14,790 --> 03:04:13,120
refused to be interviewed for this like

4882
03:04:16,870 --> 03:04:14,800
oh this person didn't want anything oh

4883
03:04:18,630 --> 03:04:16,880
this person didn't want this person told

4884
03:04:20,790 --> 03:04:18,640
us this but didn't want to it's just

4885
03:04:23,190 --> 03:04:20,800
more of that [\h__\h] where i'm just like

4886
03:04:24,389 --> 03:04:23,200
what what are you trying to do here

4887
03:04:26,630 --> 03:04:24,399
like are you trying to [\h__\h] with a

4888
03:04:29,269 --> 03:04:26,640
community that is already kind of like

4889
03:04:32,309 --> 03:04:29,279
on edge to a certain degree amen thank

4890
03:04:34,389 --> 03:04:32,319
you yeah like like those people who

4891
03:04:36,710 --> 03:04:34,399
are spending who sometimes spend their

4892
03:04:39,030 --> 03:04:36,720
lives trying to find answers trying to

4893
03:04:41,110 --> 03:04:39,040
feel validated trying to feel

4894
03:04:42,150 --> 03:04:41,120
you know i i have nothing but respect

4895
03:04:43,750 --> 03:04:42,160
for

4896
03:04:45,110 --> 03:04:43,760
a good chunk of the people as you've

4897
03:04:47,429 --> 03:04:45,120
pointed me out towards some people that

4898
03:04:49,030 --> 03:04:47,439
i can steer away from but when you

4899
03:04:53,830 --> 03:04:49,040
devote yourself your life to something

4900
03:04:57,190 --> 03:04:53,840
like this that is not taken seriously 95

4901
03:04:59,510 --> 03:04:57,200
of the time and you kind of do this

4902
03:05:00,950 --> 03:04:59,520
big budget olive branch and it's

4903
03:05:02,790 --> 03:05:00,960
[\h__\h]

4904
03:05:05,110 --> 03:05:02,800
and you're trying to act like it's like

4905
03:05:06,070 --> 03:05:05,120
that's it's offensive to a certain

4906
03:05:08,150 --> 03:05:06,080
degree

4907
03:05:10,309 --> 03:05:08,160
like and it's uh like i don't know maybe

4908
03:05:11,670 --> 03:05:10,319
hindsight is 20 20. i would love to hear

4909
03:05:12,950 --> 03:05:11,680
what the controversy is because i would

4910
03:05:15,190 --> 03:05:12,960
like to see how they because i know

4911
03:05:17,190 --> 03:05:15,200
critics did not care for this film um

4912
03:05:19,190 --> 03:05:17,200
like i like it's not even like it was a

4913
03:05:20,950 --> 03:05:19,200
successful in like

4914
03:05:24,230 --> 03:05:20,960
being a motion picture

4915
03:05:26,389 --> 03:05:24,240
monetarily it was a huge success yeah it

4916
03:05:27,110 --> 03:05:26,399
made like four times its money back yeah

4917
03:05:29,910 --> 03:05:27,120
but

4918
03:05:32,389 --> 03:05:29,920
critically successful i mean let's just

4919
03:05:35,110 --> 03:05:32,399
i'll spoil it now 18

4920
03:05:37,110 --> 03:05:35,120
on rotten tomatoes from the critics 41

4921
03:05:39,269 --> 03:05:37,120
by the audience this was

4922
03:05:41,510 --> 03:05:39,279
critically a failure for sure and for

4923
03:05:43,110 --> 03:05:41,520
many reasons but um

4924
03:05:45,590 --> 03:05:43,120
um let's

4925
03:05:47,750 --> 03:05:45,600
i i guess let's kind of just let's go

4926
03:05:50,389 --> 03:05:47,760
through this scatter plot really quick

4927
03:05:52,309 --> 03:05:50,399
um abby is a psychologist she finds

4928
03:05:53,990 --> 03:05:52,319
these patterns and all of her patients

4929
03:05:54,790 --> 03:05:54,000
she comes to realize she thinks they're

4930
03:05:56,150 --> 03:05:54,800
being

4931
03:05:58,790 --> 03:05:56,160
they think they're

4932
03:06:00,469 --> 03:05:58,800
they might be abducted by aliens she

4933
03:06:03,349 --> 03:06:00,479
gets her colleague involved who's a

4934
03:06:05,990 --> 03:06:03,359
psychologist as well he's very hesitant

4935
03:06:07,590 --> 03:06:06,000
about believing any of it um then he

4936
03:06:09,429 --> 03:06:07,600
sits in on some of the sessions and he's

4937
03:06:11,349 --> 03:06:09,439
like holy [\h__\h] like something weird is

4938
03:06:14,230 --> 03:06:11,359
going on here meanwhile one of her

4939
03:06:15,750 --> 03:06:14,240
patients um kills his family he kills

4940
03:06:18,309 --> 03:06:15,760
himself he can't deal with all this

4941
03:06:20,550 --> 03:06:18,319
alien abduction stuff and now that was a

4942
03:06:22,710 --> 03:06:20,560
really good acting team

4943
03:06:25,269 --> 03:06:22,720
all the actors in this i thought did an

4944
03:06:26,790 --> 03:06:25,279
incredible job um but now abby the

4945
03:06:28,630 --> 03:06:26,800
psychologist is kind of under the

4946
03:06:31,269 --> 03:06:28,640
microscope of the cops like one of her

4947
03:06:33,349 --> 03:06:31,279
pages patients just killed himself um

4948
03:06:35,910 --> 03:06:33,359
all this weird shit's going on people

4949
03:06:38,309 --> 03:06:35,920
are missing blah blah blah um

4950
03:06:40,870 --> 03:06:38,319
and then we come to

4951
03:06:43,190 --> 03:06:40,880
find out that um

4952
03:06:45,190 --> 03:06:43,200
uh well and then we didn't even mention

4953
03:06:48,469 --> 03:06:45,200
her husband gets murdered in the

4954
03:06:50,550 --> 03:06:48,479
beginning um in bed while she's there by

4955
03:06:52,630 --> 03:06:50,560
an intruder so this super traumatic

4956
03:06:54,790 --> 03:06:52,640
thing happens um

4957
03:06:56,710 --> 03:06:54,800
abby's son hates her because he thinks

4958
03:06:59,349 --> 03:06:56,720
that she could have saved him she's got

4959
03:07:01,269 --> 03:06:59,359
a blind daughter like um the sympathy

4960
03:07:03,830 --> 03:07:01,279
cards are just like being pulled left

4961
03:07:06,230 --> 03:07:03,840
and right in this movie um

4962
03:07:08,870 --> 03:07:06,240
and then fast forward

4963
03:07:11,110 --> 03:07:08,880
um the cops kind of put the family under

4964
03:07:11,910 --> 03:07:11,120
surveillance and um

4965
03:07:12,710 --> 03:07:11,920
boom

4966
03:07:14,630 --> 03:07:12,720
her

4967
03:07:16,550 --> 03:07:14,640
ufo comes over their house and abducts

4968
03:07:19,910 --> 03:07:16,560
the daughter right and then we have this

4969
03:07:37,510 --> 03:07:19,920
whole side plot with ancient aliens and

4970
03:07:41,269 --> 03:07:38,950
and then you have this plan i don't i

4971
03:07:43,190 --> 03:07:41,279
don't know it's going in and out in and

4972
03:07:44,710 --> 03:07:43,200
out it's just it's

4973
03:07:46,309 --> 03:07:44,720
like you know and they made sure to

4974
03:07:48,070 --> 03:07:46,319
shoot it like all the archival footage

4975
03:07:50,150 --> 03:07:48,080
was shot really well with that uh which

4976
03:07:52,550 --> 03:07:50,160
is just kind of silly but then like you

4977
03:07:54,309 --> 03:07:52,560
know they would make sure that that the

4978
03:07:56,710 --> 03:07:54,319
dramatization was just a little

4979
03:07:58,870 --> 03:07:56,720
different in the positioning together to

4980
03:08:00,150 --> 03:07:58,880
give that again more of an idea that

4981
03:08:01,910 --> 03:08:00,160
like oh this is the real one but we

4982
03:08:03,910 --> 03:08:01,920
didn't do it exactly the same way we did

4983
03:08:05,910 --> 03:08:03,920
it like that like it's just all this

4984
03:08:07,750 --> 03:08:05,920
stuff that i it feel

4985
03:08:10,630 --> 03:08:07,760
it's it's

4986
03:08:13,030 --> 03:08:10,640
i i almost

4987
03:08:15,670 --> 03:08:13,040
i almost wonder if i wouldn't feel as

4988
03:08:18,070 --> 03:08:15,680
strongly about this if it was a

4989
03:08:19,510 --> 03:08:18,080
um completely made up like even make up

4990
03:08:21,670 --> 03:08:19,520
the town where it exists straight up

4991
03:08:25,030 --> 03:08:21,680
sci-fi movie yep yes because again

4992
03:08:27,190 --> 03:08:25,040
they're like i'm from what i saw of the

4993
03:08:28,790 --> 03:08:27,200
gnome disappearances

4994
03:08:30,150 --> 03:08:28,800
there are of course at any time

4995
03:08:31,830 --> 03:08:30,160
something like that people are gonna it

4996
03:08:33,670 --> 03:08:31,840
happens people are gonna come in and be

4997
03:08:37,110 --> 03:08:33,680
like oh it's this crazy thing that

4998
03:08:38,710 --> 03:08:37,120
happened not not real tragedy um not

4999
03:08:41,030 --> 03:08:38,720
that the other thing isn't real tragedy

5000
03:08:43,269 --> 03:08:41,040
either but you know what i'm saying um

5001
03:08:46,230 --> 03:08:43,279
the hurt that people are dealing with

5002
03:08:48,950 --> 03:08:46,240
sadness that people are dealing with and

5003
03:08:52,630 --> 03:08:48,960
these guys took 10 million dollars and

5004
03:08:55,510 --> 03:08:52,640
whatever the advertising budget was to

5005
03:08:57,990 --> 03:08:55,520
give a differing answer

5006
03:08:59,269 --> 03:08:58,000
that that doesn't ask andrew is if if it

5007
03:09:02,389 --> 03:08:59,279
was a different talent or if they didn't

5008
03:09:04,150 --> 03:09:02,399
put the disclaimer this was

5009
03:09:06,950 --> 03:09:04,160
i would even be fine with the disclaimer

5010
03:09:10,150 --> 03:09:06,960
i feel like i would need it to be about

5011
03:09:11,349 --> 03:09:10,160
a different subject and okay so

5012
03:09:12,870 --> 03:09:11,359
what if it was just a street sci-fi

5013
03:09:15,110 --> 03:09:12,880
movie and like they use the same trope

5014
03:09:16,389 --> 03:09:15,120
though like where it's like real footage

5015
03:09:17,910 --> 03:09:16,399
fake footage because they never yeah i

5016
03:09:20,550 --> 03:09:17,920
guess it would depend on the sci-fi like

5017
03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:20,560
my first day like let's just say

5018
03:09:24,550 --> 03:09:23,120
let they did all this right um but

5019
03:09:25,750 --> 03:09:24,560
they're like it's a town full of

5020
03:09:27,590 --> 03:09:25,760
werewolves

5021
03:09:29,670 --> 03:09:27,600
yeah they're just like oh man this

5022
03:09:31,750 --> 03:09:29,680
lady's family is getting picked off by

5023
03:09:33,349 --> 03:09:31,760
werewolves or people are realizing

5024
03:09:37,110 --> 03:09:33,359
they're turning into werewolves this

5025
03:09:38,550 --> 03:09:37,120
thing that is very obviously and clearly

5026
03:09:40,309 --> 03:09:38,560
maybe there might be a few people out

5027
03:09:41,750 --> 03:09:40,319
there that really strongly believe in

5028
03:09:45,590 --> 03:09:41,760
werewolves and they're dangerous because

5029
03:09:46,870 --> 03:09:45,600
of it but i i doubt that um i i could be

5030
03:09:47,590 --> 03:09:46,880
wrong um

5031
03:09:50,229 --> 03:09:47,600
but

5032
03:09:51,349 --> 03:09:50,239
with this i feel like with the ufo

5033
03:09:52,950 --> 03:09:51,359
community

5034
03:09:53,990 --> 03:09:52,960
um there

5035
03:09:59,830 --> 03:09:54,000
there

5036
03:10:01,590 --> 03:09:59,840
something to happen for something to go

5037
03:10:03,190 --> 03:10:01,600
wrong i think it's there's a little bit

5038
03:10:05,590 --> 03:10:03,200
too much of um

5039
03:10:09,030 --> 03:10:05,600
of a volatility there and not

5040
03:10:10,870 --> 03:10:09,040
necessarily like not because

5041
03:10:12,389 --> 03:10:10,880
the people that follow it are all like

5042
03:10:14,070 --> 03:10:12,399
messed up or anything like that it's

5043
03:10:16,710 --> 03:10:14,080
just this idea that when you want

5044
03:10:19,429 --> 03:10:16,720
something so badly

5045
03:10:21,429 --> 03:10:19,439
and you are given

5046
03:10:22,630 --> 03:10:21,439
supposed proof like there's more of a

5047
03:10:24,389 --> 03:10:22,640
chance that you're going to want to grab

5048
03:10:26,950 --> 03:10:24,399
on to that and it's and again it is

5049
03:10:29,190 --> 03:10:26,960
something that most of the time is very

5050
03:10:32,309 --> 03:10:29,200
far out of reach

5051
03:10:33,110 --> 03:10:32,319
um yeah so i just think yeah i see i and

5052
03:10:35,110 --> 03:10:33,120
i just

5053
03:10:36,389 --> 03:10:35,120
well i want to get you guys opinion on

5054
03:10:38,389 --> 03:10:36,399
this um

5055
03:10:40,229 --> 03:10:38,399
the one cool kind of unique thing i

5056
03:10:41,349 --> 03:10:40,239
thought they played with a little bit

5057
03:10:42,389 --> 03:10:41,359
was this

5058
03:10:45,429 --> 03:10:42,399
owl

5059
03:10:47,670 --> 03:10:45,439
um thing this is i don't remember there

5060
03:10:49,910 --> 03:10:47,680
being an owl in it at all there's owls

5061
03:10:51,269 --> 03:10:49,920
all over the place that's so funny

5062
03:11:05,030 --> 03:10:51,279
okay

5063
03:11:09,190 --> 03:11:07,269
when i first saw that scene that was the

5064
03:11:12,070 --> 03:11:09,200
one scene where i'm like thank you

5065
03:11:15,110 --> 03:11:12,080
that's like a very deep cut in ufo lore

5066
03:11:16,710 --> 03:11:15,120
i mean look look i've got right here

5067
03:11:19,590 --> 03:11:16,720
i've got two books

5068
03:11:21,830 --> 03:11:19,600
written just about ufos and owls it's a

5069
03:11:22,870 --> 03:11:21,840
real thing it's a phenomenon where owls

5070
03:11:24,469 --> 03:11:22,880
are seen

5071
03:11:26,950 --> 03:11:24,479
to either

5072
03:11:29,429 --> 03:11:26,960
be around before an abduction or a ufo

5073
03:11:31,110 --> 03:11:29,439
event or after and a lot of people

5074
03:11:34,469 --> 03:11:31,120
believe that owls are kind of like a

5075
03:11:36,309 --> 03:11:34,479
harbinger of these things or or

5076
03:11:38,389 --> 03:11:36,319
i mean you look at the owl look at the

5077
03:11:40,550 --> 03:11:38,399
shape of the head look at the eyes it's

5078
03:11:42,630 --> 03:11:40,560
very reminiscent of a gray alien so a

5079
03:11:45,349 --> 03:11:42,640
lot of people think this is what they

5080
03:11:47,510 --> 03:11:45,359
use to like get to somewhere and then

5081
03:11:49,510 --> 03:11:47,520
abduct you like they're they're showing

5082
03:11:51,990 --> 03:11:49,520
you themselves in another form a screen

5083
03:11:53,670 --> 03:11:52,000
memory they call it um and this is what

5084
03:11:55,590 --> 03:11:53,680
people have claimed and that's what they

5085
03:11:57,910 --> 03:11:55,600
did in this movie all of her patients

5086
03:11:59,429 --> 03:11:57,920
claim they saw owls before these things

5087
03:12:01,030 --> 03:11:59,439
these these things happen so i thought

5088
03:12:02,389 --> 03:12:01,040
that was a really cool part of them so

5089
03:12:05,030 --> 03:12:02,399
is that more of is that more of like a

5090
03:12:06,710 --> 03:12:05,040
deep cut you would say for you

5091
03:12:08,389 --> 03:12:06,720
yeah it's not that well known i mean you

5092
03:12:09,510 --> 03:12:08,399
go back

5093
03:12:11,590 --> 03:12:09,520
even

5094
03:12:13,269 --> 03:12:11,600
dealt with that sure but that's kind of

5095
03:12:15,190 --> 03:12:13,279
my point you know what i mean that's

5096
03:12:16,870 --> 03:12:15,200
like think about how excited you just

5097
03:12:18,150 --> 03:12:16,880
got by that by the fact that they

5098
03:12:20,469 --> 03:12:18,160
brought up this thing that doesn't get

5099
03:12:22,469 --> 03:12:20,479
brought up too often right yeah and

5100
03:12:26,070 --> 03:12:22,479
let's say you're a less stable human

5101
03:12:28,630 --> 03:12:26,080
being that like is taking that as a sign

5102
03:12:30,870 --> 03:12:28,640
that they're like oh

5103
03:12:33,510 --> 03:12:30,880
like this is in the [\h__\h] like this is

5104
03:12:35,190 --> 03:12:33,520
not your like rudimentary oh the grays

5105
03:12:36,630 --> 03:12:35,200
come down and they they're getting at

5106
03:12:40,710 --> 03:12:36,640
the real stuff that people don't talk

5107
03:12:42,389 --> 03:12:40,720
about so this has to be so good

5108
03:12:44,870 --> 03:12:42,399
i'm gonna push back a little bit

5109
03:12:47,269 --> 03:12:44,880
so i agree but here's the thing i'm fine

5110
03:12:49,510 --> 03:12:47,279
as a as a as an audience member who's

5111
03:12:52,389 --> 03:12:49,520
not deeply entrenched in it if you make

5112
03:12:54,070 --> 03:12:52,399
this movie and you remove the miele

5113
03:12:56,309 --> 03:12:54,080
jolovich thing at the beginning and to

5114
03:12:59,269 --> 03:12:56,319
me it's like i'm going into straight

5115
03:13:03,030 --> 03:12:59,279
fiction someone made a horror movie and

5116
03:13:04,870 --> 03:13:03,040
utilized found footage as part of it i'm

5117
03:13:06,790 --> 03:13:04,880
fine with that story as as a main

5118
03:13:09,190 --> 03:13:06,800
consumer if you're not trying to make me

5119
03:13:10,870 --> 03:13:09,200
believe that it's true right yeah

5120
03:13:14,550 --> 03:13:10,880
because i do think

5121
03:13:15,910 --> 03:13:14,560
that like it's shot really [\h__\h] well

5122
03:13:17,670 --> 03:13:15,920
so much stuff that i feel like those

5123
03:13:18,630 --> 03:13:17,680
bumpers had to have been added

5124
03:13:20,070 --> 03:13:18,640
afterwards

5125
03:13:21,910 --> 03:13:20,080
because they look terrible if the

5126
03:13:23,910 --> 03:13:21,920
bumpers weren't there and i was like i'm

5127
03:13:25,910 --> 03:13:23,920
going into a horror movie and they're

5128
03:13:27,590 --> 03:13:25,920
not seeing his real channel

5129
03:13:29,990 --> 03:13:27,600
change the town i get that that's a good

5130
03:13:32,550 --> 03:13:30,000
point like make it a fault a fake town

5131
03:13:34,550 --> 03:13:32,560
in alaska that gets a real town that has

5132
03:13:36,710 --> 03:13:34,560
real problems and that's probably like

5133
03:13:38,309 --> 03:13:36,720
remove those two move the bumpers change

5134
03:13:39,910 --> 03:13:38,319
don't make it known make it someplace

5135
03:13:41,190 --> 03:13:39,920
else in [\h__\h] remote alaska and give

5136
03:13:42,870 --> 03:13:41,200
it a different name

5137
03:13:44,229 --> 03:13:42,880
right i am cool because that makes it

5138
03:13:46,309 --> 03:13:44,239
kind of freaky like some of the images

5139
03:13:47,830 --> 03:13:46,319
like the guy floating and like the the

5140
03:13:50,150 --> 03:13:47,840
found footage image

5141
03:13:52,790 --> 03:13:50,160
like the way that the director did that

5142
03:13:56,389 --> 03:13:52,800
i was like ooh [\h__\h] like it was good it

5143
03:13:58,150 --> 03:13:56,399
was executed well but yeah necessary

5144
03:14:00,550 --> 03:13:58,160
it's someone who's not in it someone

5145
03:14:02,710 --> 03:14:00,560
says i'm like oh the owl thing's

5146
03:14:03,990 --> 03:14:02,720
[\h__\h] cool like that's a cool shot

5147
03:14:05,750 --> 03:14:04,000
because then you're introducing me to

5148
03:14:07,429 --> 03:14:05,760
some of this stuff

5149
03:14:09,030 --> 03:14:07,439
and if i'm gonna go learn about it be

5150
03:14:11,510 --> 03:14:09,040
like oh what's up with allison aliens

5151
03:14:13,030 --> 03:14:11,520
like totally um there are things that i

5152
03:14:14,309 --> 03:14:13,040
liked about this film i just think it

5153
03:14:16,630 --> 03:14:14,319
was irresponsible like what you were

5154
03:14:18,950 --> 03:14:16,640
saying to make it

5155
03:14:20,710 --> 03:14:18,960
to say it was real to say it was like a

5156
03:14:22,469 --> 03:14:20,720
real but like a wink reel but if you

5157
03:14:23,910 --> 03:14:22,479
aren't getting the wink like if you are

5158
03:14:26,309 --> 03:14:23,920
catching the wink at the end then like

5159
03:14:28,229 --> 03:14:26,319
you're just like oh [\h__\h] this is real no

5160
03:14:29,269 --> 03:14:28,239
again they double down at the end of the

5161
03:14:31,670 --> 03:14:29,279
movie

5162
03:14:33,670 --> 03:14:31,680
i was floored by that i know

5163
03:14:35,670 --> 03:14:33,680
i i want to give a quick shout out guys

5164
03:14:38,469 --> 03:14:35,680
to unidentified celebrity review luis

5165
03:14:41,670 --> 03:14:38,479
jimenez is here and um ufot has been

5166
03:14:43,110 --> 03:14:41,680
with us all night she's awesome

5167
03:14:45,110 --> 03:14:43,120
she's got her own youtube channel go

5168
03:14:45,910 --> 03:14:45,120
check it out ufot

5169
03:14:47,670 --> 03:14:45,920
um

5170
03:14:49,269 --> 03:14:47,680
and she did mention earlier the

5171
03:14:51,429 --> 03:14:49,279
messengers which is the book i showed

5172
03:14:53,349 --> 03:14:51,439
you guys um by mike cleland and richard

5173
03:14:55,750 --> 03:14:53,359
dolan like she knows she's in this

5174
03:14:59,030 --> 03:14:55,760
community she knows how much owls mean

5175
03:15:00,710 --> 03:14:59,040
to us and um yeah yeah but i get both of

5176
03:15:02,790 --> 03:15:00,720
what you guys are saying no i get that

5177
03:15:05,349 --> 03:15:02,800
too because look it must feel [\h__\h]

5178
03:15:08,150 --> 03:15:05,359
nice to feel see the first time that i

5179
03:15:10,150 --> 03:15:08,160
ever felt like i fit in in my life was

5180
03:15:12,070 --> 03:15:10,160
when i saw a weird al in concert when i

5181
03:15:13,590 --> 03:15:12,080
was like a 27 year old man when i saw a

5182
03:15:15,750 --> 03:15:13,600
weirdo for the first time and i saw

5183
03:15:17,670 --> 03:15:15,760
other people that looked like me like my

5184
03:15:18,950 --> 03:15:17,680
wife and i she got me ticket and we were

5185
03:15:20,710 --> 03:15:18,960
just looking around i was like we were

5186
03:15:24,150 --> 03:15:20,720
like that person like those people look

5187
03:15:26,469 --> 03:15:24,160
like i've i've never really felt that

5188
03:15:27,990 --> 03:15:26,479
before in my life i never had any clicks

5189
03:15:30,389 --> 03:15:28,000
i didn't really go through any phases i

5190
03:15:32,950 --> 03:15:30,399
was just kind of like i like i i just

5191
03:15:35,510 --> 03:15:32,960
felt like i fit in and it's a [\h__\h]

5192
03:15:38,469 --> 03:15:35,520
rad feeling and it is a good feeling

5193
03:15:40,630 --> 03:15:38,479
like i understand being when kylie book

5194
03:15:43,030 --> 03:15:40,640
movies blew up that was that was for me

5195
03:15:45,910 --> 03:15:43,040
like i'm like oh [\h__\h] like this is this

5196
03:15:47,910 --> 03:15:45,920
is [\h__\h] cool now right oh

5197
03:15:49,110 --> 03:15:47,920
cool great it's different than the weird

5198
03:15:51,030 --> 03:15:49,120
owl experience but it's the same thing

5199
03:15:52,630 --> 03:15:51,040
like you all of a sudden like here's a

5200
03:15:54,229 --> 03:15:52,640
community and now people like get that

5201
03:15:55,670 --> 03:15:54,239
community and think it's good or want to

5202
03:15:57,830 --> 03:15:55,680
know more about it

5203
03:15:59,830 --> 03:15:57,840
we in the ufo community are living that

5204
03:16:02,870 --> 03:15:59,840
right now since the pentagon came out

5205
03:16:05,030 --> 03:16:02,880
and said ufos are real we investigated

5206
03:16:06,550 --> 03:16:05,040
them we're going to now invest they're

5207
03:16:08,469 --> 03:16:06,560
opening a permanent office to

5208
03:16:10,070 --> 03:16:08,479
investigate ufos and it's awesome that's

5209
03:16:12,309 --> 03:16:10,080
right it's happening so i mean talk

5210
03:16:15,110 --> 03:16:12,319
about validity that's what we needed

5211
03:16:18,309 --> 03:16:15,120
what we don't need is [\h__\h] like this to

5212
03:16:20,790 --> 03:16:18,319
muddy the waters and exploit it to a to

5213
03:16:23,510 --> 03:16:20,800
an extent that the fourth kind did yeah

5214
03:16:26,389 --> 03:16:23,520
i don't like alien abduction um

5215
03:16:28,950 --> 03:16:26,399
mcpherson tape like we know we get it

5216
03:16:31,429 --> 03:16:28,960
with this movie they tried to manipulate

5217
03:16:34,469 --> 03:16:31,439
us so much and force it down our throats

5218
03:16:37,030 --> 03:16:34,479
that this is real this is real

5219
03:16:39,670 --> 03:16:37,040
it it it was the least real of all of

5220
03:16:42,550 --> 03:16:39,680
these because of a the budget and b they

5221
03:16:44,870 --> 03:16:42,560
tried so damn hard to convince us that

5222
03:16:47,190 --> 03:16:44,880
that footage was real when

5223
03:16:48,550 --> 03:16:47,200
oh god it's so so frustrating i do want

5224
03:16:51,830 --> 03:16:48,560
to say the

5225
03:16:54,870 --> 03:16:51,840
filming of it is [\h__\h] gorgeous no

5226
03:16:56,469 --> 03:16:54,880
there's again i i i don't think anybody

5227
03:16:58,469 --> 03:16:56,479
here is saying that anybody involved

5228
03:16:59,990 --> 03:16:58,479
with this film is not talented i just i

5229
03:17:01,990 --> 03:17:00,000
said i was going to use this term

5230
03:17:04,950 --> 03:17:02,000
earlier i find it

5231
03:17:06,550 --> 03:17:04,960
uh ill-advised what they decided ethical

5232
03:17:07,750 --> 03:17:06,560
if that makes sense artistically

5233
03:17:08,469 --> 03:17:07,760
unethical

5234
03:17:11,510 --> 03:17:08,479
yeah

5235
03:17:14,309 --> 03:17:11,520
i get a man well um but i guess let's

5236
03:17:17,190 --> 03:17:14,319
let's kind of get to the end um so her

5237
03:17:20,469 --> 03:17:17,200
blind daughter is abducted um we see

5238
03:17:22,950 --> 03:17:20,479
some dash cam footage again uh which was

5239
03:17:24,550 --> 03:17:22,960
okay but here's my problem we see in the

5240
03:17:26,950 --> 03:17:24,560
dashcam footage the police are watching

5241
03:17:28,710 --> 03:17:26,960
the house and a ufo goes over the house

5242
03:17:31,590 --> 03:17:28,720
and then it goes staticky and then all

5243
03:17:33,190 --> 03:17:31,600
we hear is the copying like oh my god

5244
03:17:34,469 --> 03:17:33,200
they're being she's being lifted out of

5245
03:17:35,990 --> 03:17:34,479
the house

5246
03:17:37,990 --> 03:17:36,000
like staticky cameras is that like a

5247
03:17:40,309 --> 03:17:38,000
thing too oh totally yeah it's the same

5248
03:17:42,550 --> 03:17:40,319
in the paranormal community like these

5249
03:17:45,030 --> 03:17:42,560
these phenomena have a way of messing

5250
03:17:47,830 --> 03:17:45,040
with with cameras they drain batteries

5251
03:17:49,510 --> 03:17:47,840
very easily blah blah blah um here's my

5252
03:17:51,269 --> 03:17:49,520
problem like

5253
03:17:52,710 --> 03:17:51,279
i i don't know if it was a budgetary

5254
03:17:53,510 --> 03:17:52,720
thing um

5255
03:17:56,229 --> 03:17:53,520
but

5256
03:17:57,590 --> 03:17:56,239
the the camera goes static and we don't

5257
03:17:59,269 --> 03:17:57,600
see the girl getting lifted out of the

5258
03:18:00,870 --> 03:17:59,279
house i'm like come on that was like

5259
03:18:02,550 --> 03:18:00,880
your one moment to show us something

5260
03:18:04,710 --> 03:18:02,560
truly could that would make it seem less

5261
03:18:06,550 --> 03:18:04,720
real that would make it true

5262
03:18:08,630 --> 03:18:06,560
i get what you're saying but at the same

5263
03:18:10,229 --> 03:18:08,640
time i was like what a combo like that's

5264
03:18:13,110 --> 03:18:10,239
when you're gonna make the camera go

5265
03:18:14,469 --> 03:18:13,120
static come on um i don't know but then

5266
03:18:17,030 --> 03:18:14,479
we get that too where the guy is

5267
03:18:19,269 --> 03:18:17,040
literally floating out of his bed um it

5268
03:18:21,030 --> 03:18:19,279
starts going staticky too so maybe the

5269
03:18:23,110 --> 03:18:21,040
more intense the phenomena the more it

5270
03:18:25,590 --> 03:18:23,120
messes with the camera

5271
03:18:27,830 --> 03:18:25,600
sorry that was messed up anytime we see

5272
03:18:29,750 --> 03:18:27,840
like their mouth a gape and they're they

5273
03:18:30,550 --> 03:18:29,760
kind of look like they're possessed

5274
03:18:34,630 --> 03:18:30,560
it was

5275
03:18:37,110 --> 03:18:34,640
me started on the like

5276
03:18:39,429 --> 03:18:37,120
ancient sumerian voice or whatever the

5277
03:18:40,309 --> 03:18:39,439
hell that thing was that

5278
03:18:42,630 --> 03:18:40,319
was

5279
03:18:44,550 --> 03:18:42,640
very unnerving i don't know what did you

5280
03:18:47,030 --> 03:18:44,560
guys think of this this part where we

5281
03:18:50,070 --> 03:18:47,040
hear this weird kind of

5282
03:18:53,030 --> 03:18:50,080
dis what would you say um disconnected

5283
03:18:53,910 --> 03:18:53,040
voice yeah um start saying all this

5284
03:18:56,469 --> 03:18:53,920
really

5285
03:18:57,590 --> 03:18:56,479
crazy stuff that they finally decipher

5286
03:18:58,870 --> 03:18:57,600
um

5287
03:19:00,150 --> 03:18:58,880
i was actually kind of interested in

5288
03:19:02,469 --> 03:19:00,160
that because i feel like that's usually

5289
03:19:04,790 --> 03:19:02,479
more of like a demon possession trope

5290
03:19:08,150 --> 03:19:06,389
people think that like aliens and demons

5291
03:19:10,710 --> 03:19:08,160
can be the same thing like the total

5292
03:19:13,429 --> 03:19:10,720
connection that's big too there's a big

5293
03:19:15,830 --> 03:19:13,439
movement in the alien abduction lore and

5294
03:19:18,229 --> 03:19:15,840
everything of um spiritual people

5295
03:19:20,870 --> 03:19:18,239
believing that aliens could be demonic

5296
03:19:22,150 --> 03:19:20,880
or angelic like take your pick whatever

5297
03:19:24,150 --> 03:19:22,160
lens you want to look at the alien

5298
03:19:27,510 --> 03:19:24,160
phenomena through that's the problem

5299
03:19:29,670 --> 03:19:27,520
it's so amorphous and so unexplained

5300
03:19:31,750 --> 03:19:29,680
that like you could look at it from any

5301
03:19:34,150 --> 03:19:31,760
lens again i go back to like jacques

5302
03:19:36,070 --> 03:19:34,160
valet who said like yesterday's fairies

5303
03:19:38,710 --> 03:19:36,080
are today's aliens it's possible they

5304
03:19:40,070 --> 03:19:38,720
could be the same thing um or it could

5305
03:19:41,510 --> 03:19:40,080
be an angel it could be a demon it could

5306
03:19:43,349 --> 03:19:41,520
be interdimensional it could be us from

5307
03:19:45,590 --> 03:19:43,359
the future that's the stuff that like

5308
03:19:47,429 --> 03:19:45,600
keeps me going in this field is asking

5309
03:19:49,429 --> 03:19:47,439
those questions because i don't

5310
03:19:52,229 --> 03:19:49,439
personally think they're aliens i don't

5311
03:19:55,030 --> 03:19:52,239
i never have really um and i don't think

5312
03:19:57,030 --> 03:19:55,040
they are now um but this movie seems to

5313
03:20:00,150 --> 03:19:57,040
be going with that i guess i don't know

5314
03:20:02,389 --> 03:20:00,160
there's some talk of god and um ancient

5315
03:20:03,349 --> 03:20:02,399
alien stuff but i don't know that's my

5316
03:20:05,750 --> 03:20:03,359
tangent

5317
03:20:08,550 --> 03:20:05,760
matthew ryan and i actually reviewed

5318
03:20:11,750 --> 03:20:08,560
both arrival and

5319
03:20:17,190 --> 03:20:11,760
the arrival last year in an episode

5320
03:20:21,510 --> 03:20:19,269
that would be a fun franchise to to hit

5321
03:20:24,150 --> 03:20:21,520
up and we're getting an alien tv series

5322
03:20:26,150 --> 03:20:24,160
i saw too basically

5323
03:20:28,150 --> 03:20:26,160
i love those movies

5324
03:20:29,910 --> 03:20:28,160
quite a bit that guy knows how to make a

5325
03:20:32,309 --> 03:20:29,920
good tv show awesome

5326
03:20:34,630 --> 03:20:32,319
yeah absolutely man oh i'm excited for

5327
03:20:36,790 --> 03:20:34,640
that um again like

5328
03:20:39,750 --> 03:20:36,800
this topic of aliens it's been around

5329
03:20:41,670 --> 03:20:39,760
forever and it's ripe for television but

5330
03:20:44,229 --> 03:20:41,680
i think this is an example the fourth

5331
03:20:46,229 --> 03:20:44,239
kind of where it just it swung for the

5332
03:20:48,550 --> 03:20:46,239
fences and i just

5333
03:20:50,870 --> 03:20:48,560
it was too messy like they didn't they

5334
03:20:54,469 --> 03:20:50,880
didn't really have like

5335
03:20:56,070 --> 03:20:54,479
a message to say i think a plot kind of

5336
03:20:57,830 --> 03:20:56,080
like i mean there was stuff that went

5337
03:21:00,070 --> 03:20:57,840
that happened but it all just felt like

5338
03:21:01,990 --> 03:21:00,080
a loose assemblance of events and again

5339
03:21:04,389 --> 03:21:02,000
i i it's hard for me to say anything

5340
03:21:05,590 --> 03:21:04,399
about it because i really was so turned

5341
03:21:08,790 --> 03:21:05,600
off by

5342
03:21:10,229 --> 03:21:08,800
um the first five ten minutes that i i

5343
03:21:13,269 --> 03:21:10,239
don't think there was any way that i was

5344
03:21:15,910 --> 03:21:13,279
going to enjoy myself so i don't want to

5345
03:21:19,190 --> 03:21:17,910
i don't think that's super fair to

5346
03:21:20,710 --> 03:21:19,200
there's a lot of people that worked

5347
03:21:22,950 --> 03:21:20,720
really hard on this movie including the

5348
03:21:24,790 --> 03:21:22,960
people that like the director and

5349
03:21:26,630 --> 03:21:24,800
emiliogovich and

5350
03:21:27,910 --> 03:21:26,640
um is it yokovic she pronounced it that

5351
03:21:29,830 --> 03:21:27,920
way at the beginning of the movie right

5352
03:21:31,190 --> 03:21:29,840
i don't think i ever heard it

5353
03:21:32,870 --> 03:21:31,200
yeah i was like i don't think i've ever

5354
03:21:34,309 --> 03:21:32,880
heard it pronounced that way but if if

5355
03:21:36,550 --> 03:21:34,319
anybody's gonna know how to [\h__\h] say

5356
03:21:39,670 --> 03:21:36,560
it it's the person themselves

5357
03:21:42,950 --> 03:21:39,680
yeah yeah um like you know everybody

5358
03:21:45,429 --> 03:21:42,960
clearly worked hard on this um so i

5359
03:21:47,429 --> 03:21:45,439
don't um it's hard for me to discuss it

5360
03:21:49,670 --> 03:21:47,439
either way and i hope that doesn't feel

5361
03:21:50,950 --> 03:21:49,680
like a cop-out but i just

5362
03:21:53,110 --> 03:21:50,960
um

5363
03:21:55,110 --> 03:21:53,120
i stand by the stuff that i said earlier

5364
03:21:57,510 --> 03:21:55,120
and the rest of the movie just kind of

5365
03:21:59,349 --> 03:21:57,520
went by me in waves

5366
03:22:00,630 --> 03:21:59,359
even saying things that i disliked about

5367
03:22:03,590 --> 03:22:00,640
it just don't seem fair because i don't

5368
03:22:04,950 --> 03:22:03,600
think i was going to like it yeah yeah

5369
03:22:06,389 --> 03:22:04,960
that's not fair to the people who worked

5370
03:22:08,710 --> 03:22:06,399
on it exactly

5371
03:22:10,710 --> 03:22:08,720
and um you know i mean let's just go to

5372
03:22:12,309 --> 03:22:10,720
the end um

5373
03:22:14,710 --> 03:22:12,319
to try to

5374
03:22:17,349 --> 03:22:14,720
figure out where daughter is or whatever

5375
03:22:19,670 --> 03:22:17,359
they put abby the psychologist under

5376
03:22:21,910 --> 03:22:19,680
hypnotic regression to which was weird

5377
03:22:23,429 --> 03:22:21,920
i'm like are these memories or are you

5378
03:22:25,590 --> 03:22:23,439
trying to literally make contact

5379
03:22:27,750 --> 03:22:25,600
consciously i don't know yeah

5380
03:22:29,429 --> 03:22:27,760
i didn't understand what was going on

5381
03:22:31,990 --> 03:22:29,439
but then she's like getting abducted

5382
03:22:34,870 --> 03:22:32,000
herself and i guess the guys in the room

5383
03:22:37,190 --> 03:22:34,880
did too i i don't know for sure

5384
03:22:39,269 --> 03:22:37,200
and then she comes back and she's back

5385
03:22:41,510 --> 03:22:39,279
with the director of the fourth kind

5386
03:22:43,750 --> 03:22:41,520
telling her story like this is all real

5387
03:22:45,110 --> 03:22:43,760
yeah like my daughter's still missing

5388
03:22:47,510 --> 03:22:45,120
like i don't care if people think i'm

5389
03:22:48,550 --> 03:22:47,520
crazy this is my truth blah blah blah

5390
03:22:52,790 --> 03:22:48,560
and then

5391
03:22:55,349 --> 03:22:52,800
yokovich coming back on and again saying

5392
03:22:57,349 --> 03:22:55,359
and the director and the director

5393
03:22:59,190 --> 03:22:57,359
and they say that same it's up to you to

5394
03:23:01,670 --> 03:22:59,200
decide what's real and not real

5395
03:23:02,389 --> 03:23:01,680
thing and i just okay and here's the

5396
03:23:05,269 --> 03:23:02,399
only

5397
03:23:07,349 --> 03:23:05,279
real thing in the entire movie during

5398
03:23:10,710 --> 03:23:07,359
the credits they're playing audio tapes

5399
03:23:13,349 --> 03:23:10,720
of people reporting ufos too okay um oh

5400
03:23:15,110 --> 03:23:13,359
were those all real ufo reporting center

5401
03:23:16,630 --> 03:23:15,120
those are real audio tapes of people

5402
03:23:19,269 --> 03:23:16,640
reporting ufos and some of them are

5403
03:23:20,389 --> 03:23:19,279
pretty startling are they all from gnome

5404
03:23:21,910 --> 03:23:20,399
alaska

5405
03:23:24,229 --> 03:23:21,920
no no no

5406
03:23:26,150 --> 03:23:24,239
then it doesn't that doesn't matter

5407
03:23:28,229 --> 03:23:26,160
if anything that makes it worse because

5408
03:23:30,389 --> 03:23:28,239
if i were to watch the film i would

5409
03:23:32,950 --> 03:23:30,399
assume that those are calls that are

5410
03:23:35,110 --> 03:23:32,960
coming from alaska good point that's

5411
03:23:37,269 --> 03:23:35,120
that's insane that doesn't help the case

5412
03:23:38,950 --> 03:23:37,279
i really thought those were fake and i i

5413
03:23:40,229 --> 03:23:38,960
clicked away anyway because i had i had

5414
03:23:42,950 --> 03:23:40,239
stuff to do

5415
03:23:45,510 --> 03:23:42,960
but i i like and if those that's that's

5416
03:23:47,510 --> 03:23:45,520
if those are real i i would almost feel

5417
03:23:49,110 --> 03:23:47,520
i feel for those people who had to deal

5418
03:23:51,269 --> 03:23:49,120
with that who were dragged in this thing

5419
03:23:54,630 --> 03:23:51,279
to serve this other narrative

5420
03:23:58,790 --> 03:23:54,640
totally man like that's that's [\h__\h] so

5421
03:24:02,309 --> 03:24:00,150
we're going on three and a half hours

5422
03:24:04,070 --> 03:24:02,319
this has been a freaking epic marathon

5423
03:24:05,510 --> 03:24:04,080
but let's talk about the controversy

5424
03:24:07,269 --> 03:24:05,520
before we wrap up yes please tell me

5425
03:24:09,030 --> 03:24:07,279
what happened so here's

5426
03:24:10,710 --> 03:24:09,040
i wanted to more discover in real time i

5427
03:24:12,950 --> 03:24:10,720
only did lose research

5428
03:24:14,790 --> 03:24:12,960
yeah fair enough i figured you had i

5429
03:24:16,790 --> 03:24:14,800
figured you'd help me out oh i've got

5430
03:24:18,469 --> 03:24:16,800
you covered um well before the

5431
03:24:20,950 --> 03:24:18,479
controversy i do want to say the first

5432
03:24:23,670 --> 03:24:20,960
time i watched this movie um all the way

5433
03:24:25,670 --> 03:24:23,680
through was like on the

5434
03:24:27,830 --> 03:24:25,680
i don't know fourth or fifth date i had

5435
03:24:28,950 --> 03:24:27,840
with my girlfriend um we watched the

5436
03:24:31,190 --> 03:24:28,960
movie

5437
03:24:32,710 --> 03:24:31,200
we were spooked it was night time um

5438
03:24:35,750 --> 03:24:32,720
whatever there's some disturbing stuff

5439
03:24:38,229 --> 03:24:35,760
in the movie um i fell asleep and i'm a

5440
03:24:40,550 --> 03:24:38,239
very deep sleeper like i could probably

5441
03:24:43,190 --> 03:24:40,560
sleep through like a nuclear

5442
03:24:44,469 --> 03:24:43,200
attack i swear and um

5443
03:24:45,750 --> 03:24:44,479
apparently

5444
03:24:49,030 --> 03:24:45,760
she told me

5445
03:24:50,790 --> 03:24:49,040
in this deep sleep i started whimpering

5446
03:24:52,870 --> 03:24:50,800
and i started like

5447
03:24:54,150 --> 03:24:52,880
almost

5448
03:24:56,630 --> 03:24:54,160
the way she described it like i was

5449
03:24:58,550 --> 03:24:56,640
almost like talking backwards and this

5450
03:25:00,870 --> 03:24:58,560
is after watching the movie

5451
03:25:02,309 --> 03:25:00,880
and she's like woke me up terrified

5452
03:25:04,229 --> 03:25:02,319
because she's like you've never done

5453
03:25:06,229 --> 03:25:04,239
that before i've never had a history of

5454
03:25:09,030 --> 03:25:06,239
sleepwalking sleep talking nothing like

5455
03:25:11,190 --> 03:25:09,040
that um and apparently after watching

5456
03:25:13,269 --> 03:25:11,200
the fourth kind i had the first ever

5457
03:25:15,429 --> 03:25:13,279
experience of this it was probably a

5458
03:25:16,950 --> 03:25:15,439
nightmare i was having but i thought

5459
03:25:17,990 --> 03:25:16,960
that was pretty um

5460
03:25:25,590 --> 03:25:18,000
interesting

5461
03:25:29,670 --> 03:25:27,429
says the fourth kind is outstanding

5462
03:25:31,190 --> 03:25:29,680
there are a lot of fans of this movie

5463
03:25:32,790 --> 03:25:31,200
and i understand

5464
03:25:37,030 --> 03:25:32,800
it's like a beautiful movie it's like i

5465
03:25:39,110 --> 03:25:37,040
said earlier if i i do not if i enjoy

5466
03:25:42,229 --> 03:25:39,120
something i don't deny myself of that

5467
03:25:44,469 --> 03:25:42,239
and i would not want anyone else to

5468
03:25:45,750 --> 03:25:44,479
to deny themselves of that absolutely

5469
03:25:46,469 --> 03:25:45,760
first time

5470
03:25:47,510 --> 03:25:46,479
yeah

5471
03:25:49,830 --> 03:25:47,520
awesome

5472
03:25:52,150 --> 03:25:49,840
that sounds great who does controversy

5473
03:25:53,349 --> 03:25:52,160
sitting down and enjoying a movie

5474
03:25:54,870 --> 03:25:53,359
exactly

5475
03:25:56,790 --> 03:25:54,880
apparently that one guy in the chat

5476
03:25:59,030 --> 03:25:56,800
who's never seen a movie um but moving

5477
03:26:01,510 --> 03:25:59,040
on here's the controversy

5478
03:26:03,190 --> 03:26:01,520
universal heavily pushed the based on

5479
03:26:05,349 --> 03:26:03,200
true events approach when it came to the

5480
03:26:07,910 --> 03:26:05,359
viral marketing campaign for the fourth

5481
03:26:09,590 --> 03:26:07,920
kind studio had fake news articles

5482
03:26:12,710 --> 03:26:09,600
written up about the events depicted in

5483
03:26:15,429 --> 03:26:12,720
the film using them alongside real

5484
03:26:17,190 --> 03:26:15,439
articles from alaskan publications about

5485
03:26:19,590 --> 03:26:17,200
the string of disappearances related to

5486
03:26:22,150 --> 03:26:19,600
the town universal attributed its fake

5487
03:26:24,469 --> 03:26:22,160
articles to real publications like the

5488
03:26:27,990 --> 03:26:24,479
anchorage chronicle the gnome nugget and

5489
03:26:29,750 --> 03:26:28,000
the fairbanks daily news um in 2009 it's

5490
03:26:31,990 --> 03:26:29,760
more on universal too i don't put that

5491
03:26:33,990 --> 03:26:32,000
on filmmakers that's a good point unless

5492
03:26:34,950 --> 03:26:34,000
they were directly involved but i hope

5493
03:26:40,389 --> 03:26:34,960
not

5494
03:26:42,870 --> 03:26:40,399
daily news reported that the alaskan

5495
03:26:45,590 --> 03:26:42,880
press club hired anchorage attorney john

5496
03:26:47,830 --> 03:26:45,600
mckay to sue your universal for the

5497
03:26:50,469 --> 03:26:47,840
false news report and for using real

5498
03:26:51,510 --> 03:26:50,479
missing person cases to promote the

5499
03:26:54,469 --> 03:26:51,520
movie

5500
03:26:56,070 --> 03:26:54,479
nuglet publisher nancy mcguire said i

5501
03:26:58,389 --> 03:26:56,080
really was concerned about it because i

5502
03:26:59,910 --> 03:26:58,399
didn't write these things they think

5503
03:27:01,910 --> 03:26:59,920
that they can get away with this because

5504
03:27:03,990 --> 03:27:01,920
we're alaska they don't think of us as

5505
03:27:05,349 --> 03:27:04,000
having any brains or being us upset

5506
03:27:06,950 --> 03:27:05,359
about what they do

5507
03:27:08,870 --> 03:27:06,960
the company settled the matter and

5508
03:27:10,950 --> 03:27:08,880
issued a statement at the time saying

5509
03:27:13,670 --> 03:27:10,960
universal agrees to permanent

5510
03:27:15,990 --> 03:27:13,680
permanently disabling the removal of and

5511
03:27:18,150 --> 03:27:16,000
um of the articles and represents and

5512
03:27:20,309 --> 03:27:18,160
warrants that it has already permanently

5513
03:27:22,229 --> 03:27:20,319
disabled access to and removed

5514
03:27:24,309 --> 03:27:22,239
everything from the internet yeah yeah

5515
03:27:27,269 --> 03:27:24,319
because you could permanently totally be

5516
03:27:29,030 --> 03:27:27,279
scrubbed um yeah in 2009 there's

5517
03:27:29,990 --> 03:27:29,040
probably a little bit better chance

5518
03:27:32,229 --> 03:27:30,000
maybe

5519
03:27:35,670 --> 03:27:32,239
um the alaskan press club received

5520
03:27:38,870 --> 03:27:35,680
twenty thousand dollars alongside a 2500

5521
03:27:40,229 --> 03:27:38,880
donation to its calista scholarship fund

5522
03:27:41,990 --> 03:27:40,239
in alaska

5523
03:27:44,710 --> 03:27:42,000
so they clearly were doing damage

5524
03:27:46,630 --> 03:27:44,720
control but are you kidding me the fact

5525
03:27:51,030 --> 03:27:46,640
that they got sued for what they did

5526
03:27:52,870 --> 03:27:51,040
well what about make up a fictional town

5527
03:27:54,229 --> 03:27:52,880
yeah i don't know i feel that if you

5528
03:27:56,790 --> 03:27:54,239
have a missing person that family

5529
03:27:58,469 --> 03:27:56,800
industry in this if you if they used

5530
03:28:06,630 --> 03:27:58,479
someone who's actually missing someone

5531
03:28:12,070 --> 03:28:08,070
oh nick

5532
03:28:17,349 --> 03:28:15,030
we lost him no oh boy

5533
03:28:20,150 --> 03:28:17,359
nick um oh there he is

5534
03:28:21,190 --> 03:28:20,160
paused man we thought you got abducted

5535
03:28:25,110 --> 03:28:21,200
well

5536
03:28:28,950 --> 03:28:25,120
you just you decide you just

5537
03:28:30,469 --> 03:28:28,960
oh my god i love it i love it oh man we

5538
03:28:31,910 --> 03:28:30,479
are running out of steam but yeah what

5539
03:28:32,870 --> 03:28:31,920
do you guys think what do you think

5540
03:28:34,070 --> 03:28:32,880
about that

5541
03:28:35,110 --> 03:28:34,080
that whole thing i i was just saying

5542
03:28:37,510 --> 03:28:35,120
like

5543
03:28:39,830 --> 03:28:37,520
it just adds it adds to everything else

5544
03:28:41,190 --> 03:28:39,840
i just yeah yeah

5545
03:28:42,870 --> 03:28:41,200
that was something

5546
03:28:45,830 --> 03:28:42,880
and they use that like

5547
03:28:47,750 --> 03:28:45,840
exactly yeah that's cool it's called man

5548
03:28:49,590 --> 03:28:47,760
it is you know but then i i look at

5549
03:28:52,389 --> 03:28:49,600
things like all these serial killer

5550
03:28:55,110 --> 03:28:52,399
movies and stuff and i'm like based on

5551
03:28:57,670 --> 03:28:55,120
real events and i'm like okay like it's

5552
03:28:59,910 --> 03:28:57,680
been done in other ways but with this i

5553
03:29:02,550 --> 03:28:59,920
think they were so aggressive in their

5554
03:29:04,830 --> 03:29:02,560
marketing that it just came off super

5555
03:29:07,269 --> 03:29:04,840
cold and let me let me super

5556
03:29:09,030 --> 03:29:07,279
manipulative when you do like a serial

5557
03:29:11,030 --> 03:29:09,040
killer thing or a reenactment right then

5558
03:29:12,550 --> 03:29:11,040
like yes there's people who will make

5559
03:29:14,469 --> 03:29:12,560
that argument like you listening to this

5560
03:29:15,590 --> 03:29:14,479
stuff is

5561
03:29:17,429 --> 03:29:15,600
bad

5562
03:29:18,229 --> 03:29:17,439
however it is also an opportunity

5563
03:29:20,389 --> 03:29:18,239
because

5564
03:29:23,429 --> 03:29:20,399
where like a victim can be remembered

5565
03:29:25,110 --> 03:29:23,439
right so like if you are like pointing

5566
03:29:27,190 --> 03:29:25,120
out the horrificness of ted bundy just

5567
03:29:29,910 --> 03:29:27,200
like how [\h__\h] horrific that human

5568
03:29:31,830 --> 03:29:29,920
being was and you honor the victims of

5569
03:29:33,190 --> 03:29:31,840
him like in some ways

5570
03:29:36,150 --> 03:29:33,200
you can maybe say like we're trying to

5571
03:29:37,830 --> 03:29:36,160
like show yeah because people are

5572
03:29:41,110 --> 03:29:37,840
interested in that [\h__\h] but like you're

5573
03:29:43,030 --> 03:29:41,120
taking someone who is missing

5574
03:29:45,349 --> 03:29:43,040
and it's uninsulted

5575
03:29:47,910 --> 03:29:45,359
to this fake thing

5576
03:29:50,229 --> 03:29:47,920
and like how hard is that on the person

5577
03:29:51,429 --> 03:29:50,239
who is like

5578
03:29:53,190 --> 03:29:51,439
dealing with that or still trying to

5579
03:29:56,070 --> 03:29:53,200
find that love true

5580
03:29:57,830 --> 03:29:56,080
um that's such a good point nick i

5581
03:29:59,030 --> 03:29:57,840
plain devil's advocated i can't believe

5582
03:30:01,429 --> 03:29:59,040
i'm doing this

5583
03:30:04,070 --> 03:30:01,439
what if they were abducted by aliens

5584
03:30:07,190 --> 03:30:04,080
well now i i think this ability out of a

5585
03:30:09,030 --> 03:30:07,200
million possibilities i i i think that i

5586
03:30:10,790 --> 03:30:09,040
agree with that and i understand giving

5587
03:30:12,870 --> 03:30:10,800
people hope for that i think the problem

5588
03:30:15,030 --> 03:30:12,880
is that they are purposely creating here

5589
03:30:17,190 --> 03:30:15,040
a false narrative where they have

5590
03:30:19,349 --> 03:30:17,200
literally invented

5591
03:30:21,750 --> 03:30:19,359
people to be stand-ins

5592
03:30:24,630 --> 03:30:21,760
it's not like they're even examining one

5593
03:30:26,870 --> 03:30:24,640
case they are making up their own case

5594
03:30:28,710 --> 03:30:26,880
so then they can load in all the

5595
03:30:30,870 --> 03:30:28,720
evidence that they need and put in all

5596
03:30:32,389 --> 03:30:30,880
the owls and have all the like all the

5597
03:30:34,150 --> 03:30:32,399
things that are gonna

5598
03:30:36,550 --> 03:30:34,160
hit those little buzzers for people that

5599
03:30:37,910 --> 03:30:36,560
really follow this stuff and then all of

5600
03:30:40,389 --> 03:30:37,920
a sudden

5601
03:30:43,030 --> 03:30:40,399
this becomes this narrative for this

5602
03:30:46,070 --> 03:30:43,040
situation and i'm sure like look if they

5603
03:30:47,349 --> 03:30:46,080
[\h__\h] took like a like a disappearance

5604
03:30:49,030 --> 03:30:47,359
story and it had a whole bunch of

5605
03:30:50,469 --> 03:30:49,040
circumstantial evidence or regular

5606
03:30:52,550 --> 03:30:50,479
evidence that pointed to this and that's

5607
03:30:54,550 --> 03:30:52,560
what they used as their case that's fine

5608
03:30:56,870 --> 03:30:54,560
but they didn't they built one from the

5609
03:30:59,510 --> 03:30:56,880
ground up and then

5610
03:31:02,150 --> 03:30:59,520
made reenactments of the thing that they

5611
03:31:03,830 --> 03:31:02,160
faked er like you know i i just yeah

5612
03:31:06,389 --> 03:31:03,840
it's no that was i think the problem

5613
03:31:07,510 --> 03:31:06,399
here is that everything about this is

5614
03:31:09,750 --> 03:31:07,520
not true

5615
03:31:12,309 --> 03:31:09,760
everything about the movie that we saw

5616
03:31:14,150 --> 03:31:12,319
is not true but they attach it to a town

5617
03:31:16,309 --> 03:31:14,160
where something really happened and they

5618
03:31:17,110 --> 03:31:16,319
use a phenomenon that people really care

5619
03:31:19,429 --> 03:31:17,120
about

5620
03:31:21,590 --> 03:31:19,439
yeah and they got scared like that's

5621
03:31:23,429 --> 03:31:21,600
really says it all right there yeah um

5622
03:31:24,630 --> 03:31:23,439
all right guys final verdict on the

5623
03:31:26,389 --> 03:31:24,640
fourth kind what are you going to get

5624
03:31:28,710 --> 03:31:26,399
whatever the lowest number is can we do

5625
03:31:30,309 --> 03:31:28,720
zero can i do zero zero i'm going to be

5626
03:31:31,910 --> 03:31:30,319
zero i'm gonna do zero out of ten i

5627
03:31:33,349 --> 03:31:31,920
really didn't enjoy i didn't i really

5628
03:31:35,670 --> 03:31:33,359
didn't enjoy actually you know what i'm

5629
03:31:37,190 --> 03:31:35,680
gonna i'm gonna mark myself as present

5630
03:31:38,389 --> 03:31:37,200
for this one that's how i'm gonna handle

5631
03:31:40,469 --> 03:31:38,399
it fair enough

5632
03:31:41,990 --> 03:31:40,479
fair enough i'll give it like a three

5633
03:31:44,630 --> 03:31:42,000
because i did think that like the

5634
03:31:46,630 --> 03:31:44,640
craftsmanship of the film like oh yeah

5635
03:31:47,990 --> 03:31:46,640
cinematography and florence was really

5636
03:31:50,710 --> 03:31:48,000
good and so

5637
03:31:52,790 --> 03:31:50,720
i'm my beef is with none of those things

5638
03:31:54,389 --> 03:31:52,800
what's that i said my beef is with none

5639
03:31:55,910 --> 03:31:54,399
of those things and so i'm giving you

5640
03:31:57,830 --> 03:31:55,920
credit because i want to give the artist

5641
03:31:59,910 --> 03:31:57,840
that made a really

5642
03:32:02,309 --> 03:31:59,920
technically sound thing credibility

5643
03:32:04,950 --> 03:32:02,319
elias kotius is fine thank you very much

5644
03:32:07,429 --> 03:32:04,960
dude casey jones was in this movie come

5645
03:32:09,190 --> 03:32:07,439
on elias is great will patton's [\h__\h]

5646
03:32:10,870 --> 03:32:09,200
great melee yoga was just [\h__\h] great

5647
03:32:12,070 --> 03:32:10,880
like everybody in this movie is they

5648
03:32:13,670 --> 03:32:12,080
killed it really

5649
03:32:16,229 --> 03:32:13,680
they didn't they did their job so i mean

5650
03:32:17,990 --> 03:32:16,239
i'm gonna yeah people doing their job

5651
03:32:19,750 --> 03:32:18,000
exactly exactly

5652
03:32:23,110 --> 03:32:19,760
but yeah that's good which is why i am

5653
03:32:25,030 --> 03:32:23,120
here i am here for this you're present

5654
03:32:28,790 --> 03:32:25,040
fair enough guys all right

5655
03:32:30,870 --> 03:32:28,800
wow this turned into a epic

5656
03:32:32,550 --> 03:32:30,880
conversation i did not know we were

5657
03:32:33,830 --> 03:32:32,560
going to go this long thank you to both

5658
03:32:35,750 --> 03:32:33,840
of you for sticking around this morning

5659
03:32:37,750 --> 03:32:35,760
everybody to everyone

5660
03:32:39,750 --> 03:32:37,760
you listened um some closing questions

5661
03:32:42,630 --> 03:32:39,760
for you guys what was your favorite film

5662
03:32:43,510 --> 03:32:42,640
out of the four we watched andrew go

5663
03:32:47,990 --> 03:32:43,520
oh

5664
03:32:49,670 --> 03:32:48,000
when i came into it i would have said

5665
03:32:51,510 --> 03:32:49,680
mcpherson tape but i really like the

5666
03:32:53,110 --> 03:32:51,520
slumber party one

5667
03:32:54,950 --> 03:32:53,120
um

5668
03:32:56,630 --> 03:32:54,960
i'm gonna say those two together i felt

5669
03:32:59,910 --> 03:32:56,640
like i was watching one movie i really

5670
03:33:02,070 --> 03:32:59,920
did because i cuz i i i'm not joking

5671
03:33:03,190 --> 03:33:02,080
when i say mcpherson tape ended and i

5672
03:33:05,030 --> 03:33:03,200
started

5673
03:33:05,910 --> 03:33:05,040
uh thank you ufot

5674
03:33:07,990 --> 03:33:05,920
um

5675
03:33:09,510 --> 03:33:08,000
when uh mcpherson tape ended and i

5676
03:33:11,349 --> 03:33:09,520
started slumber party so that little

5677
03:33:12,790 --> 03:33:11,359
combo that was my favorite movie of the

5678
03:33:15,429 --> 03:33:12,800
things we lost

5679
03:33:24,070 --> 03:33:15,439
little uh main course and dessert yeah

5680
03:33:27,750 --> 03:33:25,349
just felt like i knew exactly what i

5681
03:33:29,750 --> 03:33:27,760
wanted to be and i

5682
03:33:31,990 --> 03:33:29,760
yeah and it had a lot of history to

5683
03:33:33,750 --> 03:33:32,000
build off of which i think is cool sure

5684
03:33:35,349 --> 03:33:33,760
um a lot of these can be traced back

5685
03:33:37,750 --> 03:33:35,359
including the mcpherson

5686
03:33:40,309 --> 03:33:37,760
totally mcpherson tape and then that was

5687
03:33:42,950 --> 03:33:40,319
inspired by actual events as well so

5688
03:33:45,190 --> 03:33:42,960
yeah it's a good lineage for sure um

5689
03:33:47,590 --> 03:33:45,200
let's see ltt wing says what is number

5690
03:33:49,670 --> 03:33:47,600
one tonight i'm gonna go

5691
03:33:52,389 --> 03:33:49,680
with oh man

5692
03:33:53,990 --> 03:33:52,399
it is tight again between slumber party

5693
03:33:56,630 --> 03:33:54,000
and mcpherson tape i'm gonna say

5694
03:33:58,950 --> 03:33:56,640
mcpherson tape um maybe i'm highest

5695
03:34:01,269 --> 03:33:58,960
obviously um but again it was the first

5696
03:34:03,750 --> 03:34:01,279
of its kind it was experimental

5697
03:34:06,070 --> 03:34:03,760
um it was highly effective and authentic

5698
03:34:08,150 --> 03:34:06,080
so um for me it was definitely i'm going

5699
03:34:10,469 --> 03:34:08,160
to say mcpherson tape but

5700
03:34:11,750 --> 03:34:10,479
slumber party is like my new go-to i'm

5701
03:34:14,309 --> 03:34:11,760
going to be watching that thing every

5702
03:34:17,269 --> 03:34:14,319
halloween i can't wait to see what jason

5703
03:34:19,910 --> 03:34:17,279
does next watch the rest of vhs too ooh

5704
03:34:21,190 --> 03:34:19,920
i'm gonna end brooke

5705
03:34:22,150 --> 03:34:21,200
um

5706
03:34:24,150 --> 03:34:22,160
let's see

5707
03:34:26,309 --> 03:34:24,160
what is both of your favorite alien

5708
03:34:27,910 --> 03:34:26,319
themed movie in general

5709
03:34:29,750 --> 03:34:27,920
not in the found footage like do you

5710
03:34:32,070 --> 03:34:29,760
have one i do

5711
03:34:33,750 --> 03:34:32,080
yeah i i [\h__\h] love a rival

5712
03:34:35,910 --> 03:34:33,760
my wife did not hang out for that one

5713
03:34:37,750 --> 03:34:35,920
for me i thought that one like hit me in

5714
03:34:39,910 --> 03:34:37,760
the like

5715
03:34:41,349 --> 03:34:39,920
crazy linguistic because i teach

5716
03:34:43,910 --> 03:34:41,359
communications too like i just thought

5717
03:34:46,950 --> 03:34:43,920
that was a great film i really loved it

5718
03:34:49,590 --> 03:34:46,960
they used good alien the the alien uh

5719
03:34:51,910 --> 03:34:49,600
bugface or boca face bokeh face where

5720
03:34:54,070 --> 03:34:51,920
can you find mcpherson it's on uh it's

5721
03:34:57,190 --> 03:34:54,080
on shutter right now it's on shutter

5722
03:34:58,950 --> 03:34:57,200
plus yeah amazon prime oh yeah dean

5723
03:35:01,190 --> 03:34:58,960
wanted me to mention if you get the um

5724
03:35:03,190 --> 03:35:01,200
the blu-ray there's a director

5725
03:35:05,510 --> 03:35:03,200
commentary and a special

5726
03:35:07,110 --> 03:35:05,520
feature like

5727
03:35:08,630 --> 03:35:07,120
buy that blue rail i might get that

5728
03:35:11,349 --> 03:35:08,640
blu-ray that sounds like a button that

5729
03:35:13,590 --> 03:35:11,359
sounds like a seal yeah google mcpherson

5730
03:35:15,110 --> 03:35:13,600
tape it should show up for sure yeah if

5731
03:35:17,349 --> 03:35:15,120
you go to amazon

5732
03:35:18,469 --> 03:35:17,359
amazon prime it'll take you to shutter

5733
03:35:20,630 --> 03:35:18,479
where you can watch that's what i did

5734
03:35:22,469 --> 03:35:20,640
yeah perfect um

5735
03:35:24,870 --> 03:35:22,479
awesome arrival great choice nick how

5736
03:35:27,510 --> 03:35:24,880
about you andrew honest i love arrival

5737
03:35:29,110 --> 03:35:27,520
too but for the for the sake of like

5738
03:35:30,469 --> 03:35:29,120
mixing things up a little bit and i like

5739
03:35:32,389 --> 03:35:30,479
yeah i look like

5740
03:35:34,389 --> 03:35:32,399
joy and i my wife and i both we love

5741
03:35:36,469 --> 03:35:34,399
that movie that's um i got to see that

5742
03:35:38,710 --> 03:35:36,479
and then see amy adams do a talk back

5743
03:35:39,910 --> 03:35:38,720
afterwards i think that that was awesome

5744
03:35:41,429 --> 03:35:39,920
wow

5745
03:35:44,229 --> 03:35:41,439
it's that i think that movie is really

5746
03:35:46,630 --> 03:35:44,239
something special i'm hyped for dune um

5747
03:35:48,389 --> 03:35:46,640
but uh i'll say slither

5748
03:35:49,590 --> 03:35:48,399
oh good choice

5749
03:35:53,030 --> 03:35:49,600
wow

5750
03:35:54,389 --> 03:35:53,040
good choice yeah that's a good one

5751
03:35:55,349 --> 03:35:54,399
actually love slytherin love slithers

5752
03:35:56,870 --> 03:35:55,359
love it

5753
03:35:58,870 --> 03:35:56,880
um well

5754
03:36:02,309 --> 03:35:58,880
a rival i'm going to go with the arrival

5755
03:36:04,830 --> 03:36:03,590
i got it

5756
03:36:06,790 --> 03:36:04,840
and ron

5757
03:36:08,630 --> 03:36:06,800
silva mar i can't forget rod silva i'm

5758
03:36:09,990 --> 03:36:08,640
gonna go with my boy steven spielberg

5759
03:36:11,830 --> 03:36:10,000
close encounters

5760
03:36:13,110 --> 03:36:11,840
of the third kind i've never seen that

5761
03:36:14,630 --> 03:36:13,120
movie

5762
03:36:15,830 --> 03:36:14,640
i saw it for the first time last year

5763
03:36:17,750 --> 03:36:15,840
it's kind of funny that you say that

5764
03:36:20,309 --> 03:36:17,760
yeah well that one had escaped me for

5765
03:36:21,670 --> 03:36:20,319
some reason funny little trivia um

5766
03:36:23,110 --> 03:36:21,680
there's a

5767
03:36:26,150 --> 03:36:23,120
one of the scientists at the end of that

5768
03:36:28,150 --> 03:36:26,160
movie um when the aliens like land and

5769
03:36:29,910 --> 03:36:28,160
the scientists like go up to the ship

5770
03:36:32,389 --> 03:36:29,920
one of those scientists was j allen

5771
03:36:35,429 --> 03:36:32,399
heineck who created the coastal counter

5772
03:36:37,750 --> 03:36:35,439
scale in working

5773
03:36:39,750 --> 03:36:37,760
like that movie was inspired by his for

5774
03:36:41,670 --> 03:36:39,760
sure that's cool so they put him in the

5775
03:36:43,670 --> 03:36:41,680
movie a little trivia for you guys but

5776
03:36:46,550 --> 03:36:43,680
i'm gonna go with close encounters um a

5777
03:36:47,429 --> 03:36:46,560
lot of people are saying arrival as well

5778
03:36:49,750 --> 03:36:47,439
um

5779
03:36:51,030 --> 03:36:49,760
that was a great one and okay

5780
03:36:52,870 --> 03:36:51,040
um

5781
03:36:55,030 --> 03:36:52,880
let's see

5782
03:36:56,790 --> 03:36:55,040
one more question guys i promise before

5783
03:36:59,590 --> 03:36:56,800
you can get back to your beautiful

5784
03:37:02,870 --> 03:36:59,600
families um what is your number one

5785
03:37:05,349 --> 03:37:02,880
sleeping i have to eat

5786
03:37:06,469 --> 03:37:05,359
yeah what is your number one horror

5787
03:37:08,550 --> 03:37:06,479
movie

5788
03:37:11,349 --> 03:37:08,560
you want our audience to uh check last

5789
03:37:15,030 --> 03:37:11,359
place halloween season watch lost boys

5790
03:37:18,550 --> 03:37:16,950
why which ones are boys watch the lost

5791
03:37:20,550 --> 03:37:18,560
boys however

5792
03:37:22,229 --> 03:37:20,560
the movie that i had originally pitched

5793
03:37:24,469 --> 03:37:22,239
to ryan for us to talk about this year

5794
03:37:26,070 --> 03:37:24,479
is a little film called society

5795
03:37:28,229 --> 03:37:26,080
um i'm trying to get more people to

5796
03:37:31,269 --> 03:37:28,239
watch this movie it was made by brian

5797
03:37:33,429 --> 03:37:31,279
yuzna who was a producer on a reanimator

5798
03:37:36,070 --> 03:37:33,439
and i believe he directed uh the second

5799
03:37:38,630 --> 03:37:36,080
reanimator um and reanimator is another

5800
03:37:40,309 --> 03:37:38,640
one my favorite movie society is

5801
03:37:41,910 --> 03:37:40,319
one of the more interesting and i think

5802
03:37:43,349 --> 03:37:41,920
more a little bit ahead of its time

5803
03:37:45,510 --> 03:37:43,359
movies that i've seen a lot time so

5804
03:37:46,950 --> 03:37:45,520
watch watch society that movie's rad but

5805
03:37:49,269 --> 03:37:46,960
um yeah lost but lost boys is my

5806
03:37:51,670 --> 03:37:49,279
favorite horror movie of all time and i

5807
03:37:53,190 --> 03:37:51,680
think it's um i i'm

5808
03:37:55,670 --> 03:37:53,200
i'm almost crushed that they're gonna

5809
03:37:57,590 --> 03:37:55,680
remake it um because i i

5810
03:37:59,429 --> 03:37:57,600
but we'll see what happens let click who

5811
03:38:01,110 --> 03:37:59,439
knows it could be good but i i think

5812
03:38:03,030 --> 03:38:01,120
what there's there's something so

5813
03:38:05,590 --> 03:38:03,040
incredibly special about that movie that

5814
03:38:07,429 --> 03:38:05,600
i think would be hard to uh

5815
03:38:08,950 --> 03:38:07,439
recapture

5816
03:38:10,389 --> 03:38:08,960
but i could i could be wrong i would

5817
03:38:12,790 --> 03:38:10,399
love for it to be good i love the kids

5818
03:38:14,389 --> 03:38:12,800
at the cast the people behind i'm super

5819
03:38:15,990 --> 03:38:14,399
happy that it's a

5820
03:38:17,110 --> 03:38:16,000
writer of color who's doing the script

5821
03:38:18,950 --> 03:38:17,120
um

5822
03:38:20,309 --> 03:38:18,960
it's there's a lot of cool things around

5823
03:38:21,830 --> 03:38:20,319
it so hopefully it's good i hope it's

5824
03:38:22,870 --> 03:38:21,840
good i do hope it's good but watch the

5825
03:38:24,309 --> 03:38:22,880
original

5826
03:38:29,429 --> 03:38:24,319
fingers crossed

5827
03:38:35,030 --> 03:38:31,990
his name his name is timmy capello and

5828
03:38:36,150 --> 03:38:35,040
he used to play uh saxophone for tina

5829
03:38:37,990 --> 03:38:36,160
turner

5830
03:38:39,750 --> 03:38:38,000
okay he looks like sean

5831
03:38:42,070 --> 03:38:39,760
i think he's on thunderdome i think he's

5832
03:38:45,349 --> 03:38:42,080
on a thunderdome song reminds me so much

5833
03:38:47,269 --> 03:38:45,359
of sean michaels there's your deep dives

5834
03:38:49,750 --> 03:38:47,279
like the gyration going on oh he's got

5835
03:38:51,269 --> 03:38:49,760
it going man he's kenny g style nick

5836
03:38:53,750 --> 03:38:51,279
everybody's so good

5837
03:38:56,630 --> 03:38:53,760
where have you seen kenny g thrusting

5838
03:38:59,830 --> 03:38:56,640
his pelvis out town hall

5839
03:39:02,469 --> 03:38:59,840
[\h__\h] town hall new york city that dude

5840
03:39:04,150 --> 03:39:02,479
kenny g came up to me and i han my bar

5841
03:39:06,870 --> 03:39:04,160
manager for those who don't know i'm a

5842
03:39:08,950 --> 03:39:06,880
bartender i work at a concert venue and

5843
03:39:11,269 --> 03:39:08,960
and i have the music producer

5844
03:39:12,790 --> 03:39:11,279
yup and kenny g came right up to me and

5845
03:39:14,870 --> 03:39:12,800
my boss and he

5846
03:39:16,790 --> 03:39:14,880
serenaded us and it was beautiful that's

5847
03:39:19,269 --> 03:39:16,800
pretty [\h__\h] cool because that dude is

5848
03:39:24,600 --> 03:39:19,279
talented as [\h__\h] sure sure no matter

5849
03:39:24,610 --> 03:39:28,550
[Applause]

5850
03:39:31,189 --> 03:39:30,309
okay so this is gonna be that justifies

5851
03:39:33,189 --> 03:39:31,199
a little bit

5852
03:39:34,710 --> 03:39:33,199
stand by me

5853
03:39:36,070 --> 03:39:34,720
and of course i didn't hear it because i

5854
03:39:37,830 --> 03:39:36,080
was plugging in my headphones what'd you

5855
03:39:39,830 --> 03:39:37,840
say stand by me

5856
03:39:40,950 --> 03:39:39,840
ooh good choice it's my favorite movie

5857
03:39:41,990 --> 03:39:40,960
of all time

5858
03:39:44,469 --> 03:39:42,000
nice

5859
03:39:47,510 --> 03:39:44,479
the idea of going and finding a body

5860
03:39:48,830 --> 03:39:47,520
andrew looks a little uh

5861
03:39:51,670 --> 03:39:48,840
by that

5862
03:39:53,349 --> 03:39:51,680
choice i'm just interested that it's

5863
03:39:55,429 --> 03:39:53,359
being classified as a horror movie i'm

5864
03:39:56,950 --> 03:39:55,439
actually kind of that's interesting

5865
03:39:59,429 --> 03:39:56,960
yeah yeah yeah yeah how will classify

5866
03:40:00,870 --> 03:39:59,439
horror that's so i went back yes i would

5867
03:40:03,030 --> 03:40:00,880
agree with that but i would say like

5868
03:40:04,870 --> 03:40:03,040
that would feel so firmly coming of age

5869
03:40:06,870 --> 03:40:04,880
to me it's both but that's how i felt

5870
03:40:08,790 --> 03:40:06,880
about it too when i watched it on my

5871
03:40:11,670 --> 03:40:08,800
corn movie coming of age movie just with

5872
03:40:13,429 --> 03:40:11,680
a [\h__\h] monster clown yeah that's fair

5873
03:40:15,030 --> 03:40:13,439
uh but that's also why i liked it you're

5874
03:40:16,309 --> 03:40:15,040
right sam i mean is very much queen of

5875
03:40:18,150 --> 03:40:16,319
age that's why it's my favorite movie

5876
03:40:20,229 --> 03:40:18,160
i've watched it since i before i should

5877
03:40:22,070 --> 03:40:20,239
have been able to watch it up into an

5878
03:40:24,790 --> 03:40:22,080
adult and it has resonated with me i've

5879
03:40:26,150 --> 03:40:24,800
read the i've read the novella but the

5880
03:40:27,590 --> 03:40:26,160
idea of it

5881
03:40:29,030 --> 03:40:27,600
and maybe i'm pepper because i'm a big

5882
03:40:32,229 --> 03:40:29,040
stephen king fan and i've read his like

5883
03:40:33,990 --> 03:40:32,239
synopsis of the story but like the

5884
03:40:37,590 --> 03:40:34,000
horror for me is like you are going to

5885
03:40:38,790 --> 03:40:37,600
find a dead body and it's a dead kid

5886
03:40:40,790 --> 03:40:38,800
that's fair

5887
03:40:43,429 --> 03:40:40,800
yeah that's that would be a huge fear i

5888
03:40:45,189 --> 03:40:43,439
get it i totally get that

5889
03:40:46,790 --> 03:40:45,199
confronting death for the first time and

5890
03:40:48,389 --> 03:40:46,800
all these things that like

5891
03:40:51,670 --> 03:40:48,399
to me

5892
03:40:53,429 --> 03:40:51,680
can be horrific or or i don't know

5893
03:40:57,429 --> 03:40:53,439
andrew is not andrew's not on board with

5894
03:41:00,870 --> 03:40:57,439
my job buddy i'm sorry i i i look yeah

5895
03:41:02,229 --> 03:41:00,880
it doesn't matter um but yeah i uh

5896
03:41:03,750 --> 03:41:02,239
it's still a great movie there was

5897
03:41:06,150 --> 03:41:03,760
something

5898
03:41:07,830 --> 03:41:06,160
it's a it's a phenomenal movie barbara

5899
03:41:11,110 --> 03:41:07,840
hershey where she was possessed anyone

5900
03:41:12,389 --> 03:41:11,120
know that one i don't know oh [\h__\h] um oh

5901
03:41:24,630 --> 03:41:12,399
i can't remember off the top i have this

5902
03:41:29,910 --> 03:41:26,870
you know what i'm gonna go with a movie

5903
03:41:32,630 --> 03:41:29,920
that we did on shocktober it follows yo

5904
03:41:35,910 --> 03:41:32,640
that's good that movie stuck with me um

5905
03:41:38,550 --> 03:41:35,920
this kind of unseen force kind of you

5906
03:41:42,070 --> 03:41:38,560
know that is never ending

5907
03:41:44,150 --> 03:41:42,080
and keeps going no matter what slowly

5908
03:41:46,389 --> 03:41:44,160
doesn't matter it's you know in all

5909
03:41:48,630 --> 03:41:46,399
these other movies we see like

5910
03:41:51,110 --> 03:41:48,640
the killer getting to the people and

5911
03:41:53,590 --> 03:41:51,120
killing them but with this one it's like

5912
03:41:55,670 --> 03:41:53,600
it could take them years to finally find

5913
03:41:57,670 --> 03:41:55,680
you to try to kill you so you're gonna

5914
03:42:00,469 --> 03:41:57,680
live your whole freaking life paranoid

5915
03:42:03,189 --> 03:42:00,479
about it unless you transmit this

5916
03:42:05,189 --> 03:42:03,199
thing to somebody else so i thought that

5917
03:42:08,070 --> 03:42:05,199
was super inventive i thought it was

5918
03:42:10,070 --> 03:42:08,080
very scary um it really affected me so

5919
03:42:12,550 --> 03:42:10,080
i'm gonna have to go with it follows is

5920
03:42:13,349 --> 03:42:12,560
a more current corner movie to watch

5921
03:42:15,670 --> 03:42:13,359
yeah

5922
03:42:17,590 --> 03:42:15,680
and kind of i'm copping out i'm gonna go

5923
03:42:19,110 --> 03:42:17,600
also with the birds i love the birds

5924
03:42:21,990 --> 03:42:19,120
that's such a good one that's a great

5925
03:42:24,870 --> 03:42:22,000
movie yeah yeah those are my two um all

5926
03:42:29,189 --> 03:42:24,880
right guys last question of the night

5927
03:42:31,110 --> 03:42:29,199
for you before we go god go to bed um

5928
03:42:32,229 --> 03:42:31,120
where can we find everything you guys

5929
03:42:35,910 --> 03:42:32,239
are up to

5930
03:42:38,550 --> 03:42:35,920
and um all that yeah if i if i'm like on

5931
03:42:40,630 --> 03:42:38,560
twitter at stanford minus sun um you can

5932
03:42:41,910 --> 03:42:40,640
listen to episodes with these guys that

5933
03:42:44,070 --> 03:42:41,920
we did of shocktober if you're

5934
03:42:46,309 --> 03:42:44,080
interested a lot of them are still up

5935
03:42:47,510 --> 03:42:46,319
under uh half white son of a black man

5936
03:42:48,310 --> 03:42:47,520
you're awesome

5937
03:42:49,670 --> 03:42:48,320
and um

5938
03:42:50,710 --> 03:42:49,680
[Music]

5939
03:42:52,309 --> 03:42:50,720
uh

5940
03:42:53,510 --> 03:42:52,319
yeah just keep your eyes peeled i mostly

5941
03:42:56,950 --> 03:42:53,520
like you can read a lot of my stuff at

5942
03:42:59,269 --> 03:42:56,960
pajama.com p-a-j-i-b-a

5943
03:43:00,870 --> 03:42:59,279
dot-com i usually cover uh

5944
03:43:02,150 --> 03:43:00,880
uh late-night talk shows for them but

5945
03:43:05,189 --> 03:43:02,160
every now and then i'll drop some other

5946
03:43:06,950 --> 03:43:05,199
pieces like i wrote about uh watching

5947
03:43:08,469 --> 03:43:06,960
child's play as a father for the first

5948
03:43:11,030 --> 03:43:08,479
time and how it really

5949
03:43:12,710 --> 03:43:11,040
messed me up um

5950
03:43:14,870 --> 03:43:12,720
theater stuff in new york

5951
03:43:16,389 --> 03:43:14,880
yes yeah well yeah well i'm just not

5952
03:43:17,510 --> 03:43:16,399
sure what random access theater is up to

5953
03:43:18,790 --> 03:43:17,520
right now so i don't want to speak for

5954
03:43:20,309 --> 03:43:18,800
them but if you go

5955
03:43:22,229 --> 03:43:20,319
to their facebook page it's this thing

5956
03:43:25,349 --> 03:43:22,239
called the drunk texts

5957
03:43:27,910 --> 03:43:25,359
where they do staged readings of uh

5958
03:43:30,630 --> 03:43:27,920
either classical works or current works

5959
03:43:32,790 --> 03:43:30,640
made classical i have adapted

5960
03:43:35,830 --> 03:43:32,800
ghostbusters for them called the mary

5961
03:43:37,910 --> 03:43:35,840
busters of ghosts um halloween which i

5962
03:43:39,429 --> 03:43:37,920
think i just called all house eve and

5963
03:43:42,229 --> 03:43:39,439
then um

5964
03:43:44,150 --> 03:43:42,239
uh uh i did the uh new hope which i

5965
03:43:46,550 --> 03:43:44,160
think it was a hope renewed but yeah i

5966
03:43:48,630 --> 03:43:46,560
just take those things those movies and

5967
03:43:50,950 --> 03:43:48,640
mash them down to 30 pages of diamond

5968
03:43:52,950 --> 03:43:50,960
pentameter and then we get drunk and do

5969
03:43:54,469 --> 03:43:52,960
staged readings of them and we drink

5970
03:43:55,910 --> 03:43:54,479
with the audience and we play drinking

5971
03:43:57,269 --> 03:43:55,920
games and they're a whole lot of fun

5972
03:43:58,710 --> 03:43:57,279
they were doing on zoom they've done a

5973
03:44:00,229 --> 03:43:58,720
couple live performances but i think

5974
03:44:01,670 --> 03:44:00,239
they're all just like

5975
03:44:03,030 --> 03:44:01,680
like everybody's trying to recollect and

5976
03:44:05,670 --> 03:44:03,040
figure out what that's going to be good

5977
03:44:07,349 --> 03:44:05,680
stuff here in new york thanks buddy um

5978
03:44:09,510 --> 03:44:07,359
yeah so yeah that stuff's uh that

5979
03:44:11,349 --> 03:44:09,520
stuff's out there and i'm around at

5980
03:44:13,590 --> 03:44:11,359
samford minus sun on twitter

5981
03:44:16,150 --> 03:44:13,600
perfect thanks buddy nick what do you

5982
03:44:17,510 --> 03:44:16,160
got for us uh so i'm more active on

5983
03:44:20,070 --> 03:44:17,520
instagram and facebook my own twitter

5984
03:44:21,830 --> 03:44:20,080
i'm real bad at twitter guys uh i'm at

5985
03:44:24,870 --> 03:44:21,840
and westermeyer on instagram and then

5986
03:44:27,670 --> 03:44:24,880
facebook's just my name um so

5987
03:44:30,950 --> 03:44:27,680
yeah this can find me and then

5988
03:44:32,309 --> 03:44:30,960
doing stuff and things lots of times

5989
03:44:35,189 --> 03:44:32,319
yeah

5990
03:44:37,990 --> 03:44:35,199
and if go to his instagram if you are

5991
03:44:43,030 --> 03:44:38,000
hungry my god this dude is like a master

5992
03:44:45,670 --> 03:44:43,040
baker um master baker is what i said

5993
03:44:47,750 --> 03:44:45,680
ryan ryan um before we do close out

5994
03:44:50,389 --> 03:44:47,760
things here i i would like to air a

5995
03:44:51,189 --> 03:44:50,399
grievance please stand by this horror

5996
03:44:52,070 --> 03:44:51,199
film

5997
03:44:56,070 --> 03:44:52,080
yeah

5998
03:44:58,229 --> 03:44:56,080
i was told uh two years ago oh

5999
03:45:01,830 --> 03:44:58,239
no no no no

6000
03:45:04,550 --> 03:45:01,840
i was told two years ago now that um we

6001
03:45:07,510 --> 03:45:04,560
the plan was we were going to

6002
03:45:09,349 --> 03:45:07,520
watch and discuss it chapter 2 and i was

6003
03:45:10,309 --> 03:45:09,359
going to talk about

6004
03:45:12,550 --> 03:45:10,319
how

6005
03:45:14,469 --> 03:45:12,560
did we not do that no we did not no we

6006
03:45:17,269 --> 03:45:14,479
did not and i wouldn't talk about how

6007
03:45:19,830 --> 03:45:17,279
much i i would even say i prefer it to

6008
03:45:21,750 --> 03:45:19,840
the first one um my life does too and

6009
03:45:23,349 --> 03:45:21,760
she doesn't even have it's a better it's

6010
03:45:25,670 --> 03:45:23,359
a better adaptation it's a better

6011
03:45:27,670 --> 03:45:25,680
adaptation of the material um i'd be

6012
03:45:29,750 --> 03:45:27,680
happy to expound on that uh you just let

6013
03:45:31,429 --> 03:45:29,760
me know when and where yeah we'll do

6014
03:45:33,030 --> 03:45:31,439
that i just bought it on blu-ray the

6015
03:45:34,630 --> 03:45:33,040
other day i'm so excited because it's

6016
03:45:36,309 --> 03:45:34,640
not streaming anywhere right now so i

6017
03:45:38,710 --> 03:45:36,319
needed to have it for shocks over and i

6018
03:45:39,590 --> 03:45:38,720
owned the first one already hbo max i

6019
03:45:41,110 --> 03:45:39,600
thought

6020
03:45:43,269 --> 03:45:41,120
they took it off right beforehand i

6021
03:45:46,309 --> 03:45:43,279
think that happens a lot of times

6022
03:45:48,469 --> 03:45:46,319
that's well no look every every october

6023
03:45:49,110 --> 03:45:48,479
it rolls around and they do the smart

6024
03:45:50,950 --> 03:45:49,120
thing

6025
03:45:52,630 --> 03:45:50,960
for it yeah exactly the [\h__\h] to get

6026
03:45:54,389 --> 03:45:52,640
people to pay for it certain things like

6027
03:45:56,469 --> 03:45:54,399
like dr sleep i had to get doctor sleep

6028
03:45:58,950 --> 03:45:56,479
too the director's cut yeah

6029
03:46:00,309 --> 03:45:58,960
andrew i i saw i again love stephen king

6030
03:46:01,590 --> 03:46:00,319
but like you

6031
03:46:03,510 --> 03:46:01,600
like raved all that and i went and

6032
03:46:05,429 --> 03:46:03,520
watched him was like

6033
03:46:06,550 --> 03:46:05,439
that mike flanagan is a [\h__\h] genius

6034
03:46:09,510 --> 03:46:06,560
if you guys haven't watched midnight

6035
03:46:11,269 --> 03:46:09,520
mass i love midnight i love midnight i

6036
03:46:14,550 --> 03:46:11,279
want to talk about that [\h__\h] man stephen

6037
03:46:17,429 --> 03:46:14,560
greer said am i late yeah buddy stephen

6038
03:46:20,070 --> 03:46:17,439
watch the archive my man um you got four

6039
03:46:22,150 --> 03:46:20,080
hours ahead of you yeah yeah

6040
03:46:23,510 --> 03:46:22,160
people are waking up yeah yeah that

6041
03:46:25,670 --> 03:46:23,520
being said

6042
03:46:27,590 --> 03:46:25,680
uh ryan thank you so much for having us

6043
03:46:30,070 --> 03:46:27,600
on yeah thank you it was really great to

6044
03:46:31,189 --> 03:46:30,080
do this little shots over uh

6045
03:46:33,429 --> 03:46:31,199
reunion

6046
03:46:35,030 --> 03:46:33,439
absolutely um i'm gonna let you guys

6047
03:46:36,790 --> 03:46:35,040
thank you to everybody who watched i

6048
03:46:38,630 --> 03:46:36,800
really appreciate it thank you

6049
03:46:41,349 --> 03:46:38,640
absolutely i'm going to remove you guys

6050
03:46:43,110 --> 03:46:41,359
here and just do a little closing but

6051
03:46:44,229 --> 03:46:43,120
thank you to both of you love you buddy

6052
03:46:46,309 --> 03:46:44,239
have a good night

6053
03:46:49,670 --> 03:46:46,319
bye guys good night have a great night

6054
03:46:53,189 --> 03:46:50,550
wow

6055
03:46:55,189 --> 03:46:53,199
that was incredible guys this was so

6056
03:46:57,110 --> 03:46:55,199
much fun these are two of my best

6057
03:46:59,510 --> 03:46:57,120
friends here in new york and yeah as you

6058
03:47:01,269 --> 03:46:59,520
can tell we have a lot of uh fun stuff

6059
03:47:03,750 --> 03:47:01,279
to talk about when it comes to movies i

6060
03:47:07,110 --> 03:47:03,760
want to thank all of you guys ufot alien

6061
03:47:11,110 --> 03:47:07,120
boca face chemo steven um

6062
03:47:13,349 --> 03:47:11,120
who else did we have elias ltc wings um

6063
03:47:15,349 --> 03:47:13,359
we had anthony earlier matthew riot of

6064
03:47:18,389 --> 03:47:15,359
course luis jimenez

6065
03:47:19,990 --> 03:47:18,399
all you guys vincent christopher um

6066
03:47:22,229 --> 03:47:20,000
thank you if i didn't mention your name

6067
03:47:25,030 --> 03:47:22,239
i do apologize i'm trying to scroll up

6068
03:47:27,030 --> 03:47:25,040
here uh morkavi studios thank you so

6069
03:47:29,189 --> 03:47:27,040
much for sticking with us this was so

6070
03:47:32,469 --> 03:47:29,199
much fun go check out all the movies we

6071
03:47:34,790 --> 03:47:32,479
talked about um and yeah if you're just

6072
03:47:35,990 --> 03:47:34,800
tuning in now go watch the archive and

6073
03:47:39,189 --> 03:47:36,000
if you want to help out someone in the

6074
03:47:40,710 --> 03:47:39,199
skies super chat is there for good um i

6075
03:47:42,070 --> 03:47:40,720
think it turns into like an applause

6076
03:47:44,389 --> 03:47:42,080
button or something if you want to help

6077
03:47:47,030 --> 03:47:44,399
out the show you can do that or you can

6078
03:47:49,830 --> 03:47:47,040
join our patreon campaign for somewhere

6079
03:47:52,309 --> 03:47:49,840
in the skies um where you give a monthly

6080
03:47:55,189 --> 03:47:52,319
contribution and you get bonus episodes

6081
03:47:58,150 --> 03:47:55,199
um one-on-ones with me um you can pick

6082
03:48:00,469 --> 03:47:58,160
my guests and topics for the show and um

6083
03:48:02,309 --> 03:48:00,479
a bunch of cool stuff over on patreon

6084
03:48:05,110 --> 03:48:02,319
as well if you want to help out someone

6085
03:48:08,870 --> 03:48:05,120
in the sky so go to patreon.com

6086
03:48:10,870 --> 03:48:08,880
somewhereskies but other than that um

6087
03:48:13,510 --> 03:48:10,880
happy halloween season guys i hope this

6088
03:48:15,349 --> 03:48:13,520
is fun for you um as much as it was for

6089
03:48:18,070 --> 03:48:15,359
us to watch all these movies tonight

6090
03:48:20,550 --> 03:48:18,080
again my special thanks to jillian to

6091
03:48:22,710 --> 03:48:20,560
jason and dean who sent in those videos

6092
03:48:26,550 --> 03:48:22,720
for us and of course to our co-hosts

6093
03:48:28,630 --> 03:48:26,560
nick and andrew and um other than that

6094
03:48:31,189 --> 03:48:28,640
we're at somewhere skies on twitter at

6095
03:48:33,429 --> 03:48:31,199
somewhere skies on instagram um make

6096
03:48:34,870 --> 03:48:33,439
sure you're subscribed to the youtube

6097
03:48:37,910 --> 03:48:34,880
channel that you are watching this on

6098
03:48:39,750 --> 03:48:37,920
right now and everything in between um

6099
03:48:41,830 --> 03:48:39,760
stay tuned for a very special witch

6100
03:48:44,630 --> 03:48:41,840
episode that we're going to be doing and

6101
03:48:46,790 --> 03:48:44,640
as usual the show is every monday um

6102
03:48:49,269 --> 03:48:46,800
that's all i got guys have a wonderful

6103
03:48:51,990 --> 03:48:49,279
night have a great halloween safe

6104
03:48:54,309 --> 03:48:52,000
halloween season and i will see you here

6105
03:48:56,630 --> 03:48:54,319
soon and remember keep your feet on the

6106
03:48:58,309 --> 03:48:56,640
ground but never stop searching

6107
03:49:02,360 --> 03:48:58,319
somewhere in the skies have a great